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    I enjoyed the movie also and would give it a 7 or 8 out of 10. I didn't realize till the end of the movie that Robert Bruce's closest ally during the film was none other than Angus Og Macdonald. Members of Clan Donald should recognize the name as one of the early Clan Chiefs and father to John 1st Lord of the Isles. I really do hope the do a sequel with the battle of Bannockburn, but it worried me a little that they sort of gave those screen text post-movie character updates at the end. Hopefully that doesn't reduce the chances of a sequel.

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    I watched it today, and thought it very good. I agree it would be great if there was a sequel, but like what I saw. I realize it might not be 100% historically accurate, but it was fairly close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpa View Post
    It can't be north of the border if it's in England, that's a contradiction. The border kicks up winds round just to the north of Berwick.
    Thanks, tpa, having reviewed the current maps Berwick is, indeed now 4 km south of the border, now defined by the Liddel, rather than the Tweed. I therefore stand corrected.

    It is an interesting place, though, having "changed hands", as it were, many times in history. I did come across a very interesting piece, https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/...5.2017.1294023 that covers the history of the area. Forum rules about politics prevents further discussion of the piece but I picked out a couple of paragraphs.

    On page 4, "Although the 1237 Treaty of York settled most of the major disputes on where the boundary should be drawn, conflict over some areas remained, such as the “Debateable Lands” (north of Carlisle in the West) and the area around the town of Berwick in the east, with the latter, one of the four original Burghs of Scotland, changing hands 14 times before finally becoming part of England in 1482."

    And on Page 5, "Following the 1603 Union of the Crowns (under James VI of Scotland/ James 1st of England) and the 1707 Act of Union, the Anglo Scottish Border became an internal border. However, some disputes over land and the path of the border line itself still remained well into the 19th century. One exemplar of the contested nature of the border in this period is the status of the border town of Berwick upon Tweed. Even though formally in England, the town continued to have a degree of independence through its long status as a Free Burgh, which meant it was referred to separately from Great Britain and Ireland in official documents, such as Acts of Parliament. This anomaly survived until 1885 when it became formally integrated within the English county of Northumberland. Crofton notes that as late as 2002, a two acre patch of Scottish territory was discovered to actually lie on the English side of the river Liddel (the established border line). This anomaly caused by an engineering problem when the Waverly train line was constructed in 1861 only came to light when the purchaser of land in the area found that specialist legal knowledge was required from both English and Scottish lawyers (Crofton 2014, 59). As Welsh summarizes, “the precise location of the Borderline gave considerable aggravation to communities immediately on either side of it until the 19th century and the tidying up of minor peculiarities and anomalies continues until this day” (Welsh 2013, 3)."

    Fascinating. Perhaps time to replace my 1936 school atlas (no, I wasn't in school then, I picked it up later)!
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    I found the movie quite good, I’d give it a 6-7. I found it realistic but I didn’t find that I was drawn to the characters. I thought that the Bruce was in hiding and that was when he developed his aquantance with Angus Og. It didn’t really draw you into the trials and difficulties that the Bruce faced in uniting the Scots and gaining the crown. If it was to be a series I would have liked to see better character development
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    I watched it twice. Once on my own and once with my dear wife. I enjoyed it and would welcome a sequel to further the story. I don't know about realism, but it was close enough for me. I did find the character development a bit lacking, as others have said.

    On the other hand, I would love to see a series or movie focused on James "Black" Douglas. What a character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyBoots View Post
    On the other hand, I would love to see a series or movie focused on James "Black" Douglas. What a character.
    Agreed! Black Douglas was definitely my favorite character, much more so than the Bruce.

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    I too enjoyed the movie! Wasn't my favorite but really enjoy the historical aspect while being entertained. This month we get Mary Queen of Scots in the theater!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyBoots View Post
    I watched it twice. Once on my own and once with my dear wife. I enjoyed it and would welcome a sequel to further the story. I don't know about realism, but it was close enough for me. I did find the character development a bit lacking, as others have said.

    On the other hand, I would love to see a series or movie focused on James "Black" Douglas. What a character.
    There is a series of historical novels available on Amazon with Douglas as the main character. Not bodice rippers, although they do tend to cycle through characters without enough development (my opinion) in the books. I will check to see if I can get more details--author, titles, etc.

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    I finally saw it and enjoyed it quite a bit. Some of the time is a bit overly compressed for my taste, but they are making a movie, not a long series, like Game of Thrones. I do see potential for a sequel.

    One disappointment, here in the states it's Netflix-only, no theatrical release. I'd definitely pay to see it on a big screen. The scenery is obviously spectacular , but the cinematography really makes it even better. The sets and costumes were very well done and the battles would be even more wrenching on the big screen.

    I'll see it again definitely.

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