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    Chief of Clan Ranald

    It seems that Reginald, the chief of Clan Ranald was more interested in enriching himself than the welfare of his clan - https://lenathehyena.wordpress.com/2...undrel-lairds/ -
    and it possibly does throw into some light the reason why the romanticism about clans and chiefs is not always to the forefront in Scottish minds. Unfortunately all too many were more focussed on their own welfare than anything to do with their clansmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdinSteve View Post
    It seems that Reginald, the chief of Clan Ranald was more interested in enriching himself than the welfare of his clan - https://lenathehyena.wordpress.com/2...undrel-lairds/ -
    and it possibly does throw into some light the reason why the romanticism about clans and chiefs is not always to the forefront in Scottish minds. Unfortunately all too many were more focussed on their own welfare than anything to do with their clansmen.
    interesting read thank you.

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    Indeed there were some absolutely awful people around in Scotland in times past, who inflicted untold hardship upon their kinsmen and others for no other reason than uncaring selfishness. I have never understood the romantic attraction of the Scottish diaspora to these distinctly unattractive types who inflicted such misery upon their ancestors. If it were me, I am damned if I would want to have anything to do with the “Old Country”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Indeed there were some absolutely awful people around in Scotland in times past, who inflicted untold hardship upon their kinsmen and others for no other reason than uncaring selfishness. I have never understood the romantic attraction of the Scottish diaspora to these distinctly unattractive types who inflicted such misery upon their ancestors. If it were me, I am damned if I would want to have anything to do with the “Old Country”.
    You'd probably have to live in the "New Country" for a while to fully understand.

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    I have come to learn that people are the same wherever you go, some short some tall, some meaner and some nicer. This is but one story that comes out of the highland, and not by a long shot encompasses all who they were. You can’t choose your family, and to Jocks point, maybe you can if it’s 200 years later and ya want to join a club. Just the same it wouldn’t deter me. Much of what Lena the hyena seems to blog about has a rough edge to it...I take it with a we bit of fermented grain.

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    Yes, history is a trap if not approached with care.

    In the U.S. today the attachment to the clan is certainly not an attachment to an autocratic chieftain telling you what to do and starving you in the process. The attachment is to the other members of the clan, to a group of people you have a link with, who share your heritage.

    Modern chiefs certainly don't resemble those of the past, and good on them! Many back in Scotland (and many here as well) think some of us as daft but that comes with the territory.
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    I don’t think that the excesses of clan chiefs in the past has a bearing on the present day because they mostly have little or no control and influence nowadays but it is important to have a balanced view of the past, particularly for those who might have a romanticised view of it. I just think that nobody benefits from a rose-tinted view of the past and it is important to realise that many clan members were treated in this way, not just in this example but widely elsewhere in Scotland. And not by wicked strangers but by their own kinsmen and clan chiefs.

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    I fixed your thread title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ashton View Post
    I fixed your thread title.
    Many thanks for that.

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