Cap Toe shoes with Day Dress?

[OC Richard]

I'm used to seeing wingtips or plain shoes with traditional Highland Day Dress (Outdoor Dress).

What do the traditionalists out there, what to the Scots out there, feel about the wearing of cap toe shoes with traditional Highland Day Dress?

For example these punch cap Oxfords



Thanks! Richard

[Tobus]

Cap toes are perfectly fine IMO, whether they have broguing or not. I have brown and black cap-toes (no broguing) that I will wear sometimes with my kilts without a second thought.

My guess is that any reservations about the shoes you posted would revolve around the colour rather than the style.

[Jock Scot]

I'm used to seeing wingtips or plain shoes with traditional Highland Day Dress (Outdoor Dress).

What do the traditionalists out there, what to the Scots out there, feel about the wearing of cap toe shoes with traditional Highland Day Dress?

For example these punch cap Oxfords



Thanks! Richard

Whilst I am not a fan of tan shoes or the style of lacing in the shoes in the picture and in truth I am not sure what you mean by "cap toes", however black brogues with assorted patterns including on the toe cap are the traditional day wear for Highland dress.

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[OC Richard]

Thanks gents!

Jock, in shoe-speak "cap toe" shoes have leather caps covering the toes, the edge of the caps going straight across the top.

Yes wingtips have a cap, but the cap is shaped in the distinctive familiar way, with two curved cutouts and coming to a point in the middle.

So in shoe-speak you have "cap toe" shoes with the cap having a plain (stitched) edge, and "punch cap" shoes with the edge of the cap decorated with a series of punched-out holes.

Here are "punch cap Oxfords" (in Oxblood)



Here are "punch cap Derby" on the left, "cap toe Oxford" on the right. (All this shoe terminology is new to me, BTW. I had to learn it when shopping for the shoes above.)

[Tobus]

Ah, another example of shoe terminology being inconsistent! I've never heard the term "punch-cap". The first example of shoes in your last post would be called semi-brogues or half-brogues according to this guide. If they are plain cap-toes with broguing only at the edge of the cap (example at the left in your last photo), they would be quarter-brogues.

[Jock Scot]

Thanks for that OCR, I am afraid that sort of detail bothers me not. I am more of a "you make them and I will fly them" type and if they keep flying for the next twenty or thirty years then thats all I need to know.

[OC Richard]

Ah, another example of shoe terminology being inconsistent! I've never heard the term "punch-cap". The first example of shoes in your last post would be called semi-brogues or half-brogues according to this guide. If they are plain cap-toes with broguing only at the edge of the cap (example at the left in your last photo), they would be quarter-brogues.

Yes I've seen that too, the top shoes would be called "half brogues" as you say.

About tan shoes, they do appear in MacLeay, but only as ghillie brogues.

Also some of the other leather items (dirk belts, sword belts, sporran cantles, dirk sheaths) appear in tan.

[Arnot]

I wear cap toes like the ones below quite often with daywear. They have plenty of room in the toe where I need it.

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[Tarheel]

I grab my cap toe shoes as often as my wing tips when I put on my kilt. I spend more time deciding on boots verses tennis shoes for work based on the conditions of the job site.

If I might encounter mud, I often forgo my wingtips because of the brogue toe.

[Nomad]

Whilst relatively new to kilts I have no problem with the style or colour of your shoes, well maybe the lack of polish . Personally I prefer brown shoes as they come in so many shades, colours and patina, that you just don't get with black. I have one set of black Oxfords for smart wear and that's the only black pair I ever see me needing.