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  1. #121
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    I can cope with a "cheeky tease" anytime.
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singlemalt View Post
    Just for the record I would like to point out my comment about Native people was followed with a wink signifying it was intended as just a cheeky tease of Jock.

    I live right on the border of the largest Native Reserve in Canada (by population) and most of my neighbours are Mohawk, Onondagas and Cayuga. So I am well aware of their issues. I also agree with Logan that Canada's history with regards to relations with Native people is very different than the USA. It has lots to be ashamed of but very little actual warfare.

    Yup.

    You just never know where somebody will take things once the lid's off the pot and not everyone notices or understands the meaning of emojis in a given context.

    Cheers!
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Retired Parish Priest & Elementary Headmaster, lover of God, people (most of them!) dogs, joy, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, dreamer, traditionalist, bon-vivant, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Sinclair.

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    A wink and a nod is the same to a blind man, I was born cheeky.

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    Why is not more made of earlier cultures in North America? Because the few scholars who were able to decipher the patterns
    made by stored acorns were abducted by aliens and today's squirrels have not bothered to keep in use the ancient lore passed
    down by their forefathers. Actually not as far metaphorically from the truth as it might appear at first guffaw. I
    have been told by highly respected elders around the world on various continents speaking with no hint of a smile that there
    was no warfare in their history until the white man came. That despite the uncovered bodies with arrow and spear points still
    in place, or skulls split open by bronze or stone implements.

    Archaeological evidence of travelers from various parts of the world to North America is regularly overlooked or pooh-
    poohed by those who aren't comfortable with the idea that the truth might be different than what we've grown used to
    in time. Chinese junks were seen on the west coast by the first Spaniards to make excursion up Big Sur. Numerous
    Roman galleys found all along the coast of South America. Roman coins wash up on the New Jersey shore. Hebrew and
    Norse runes of very old style found all through North America. We don't teach it because we can't make sense of it in our
    current understanding, and we're that wrong in that area, what else don't we understand? The unknown and the truth are
    equally unsettling, so we mostly go with comfortable.

    Facts are often met with "Shut up and go away. Nine years and a lot of work went into my degrees, and if you're right
    I'm out of a job.". Or, "Wait a minute. If you're right, my ancestor was a thief and a an egomaniac. Shut up.". History
    has always been mutable, depending on the needs of those telling it.

    Some where it was said there is nothing new under the sun. And mostly what is not new is our desire to argue, dispute,
    gnaw on dry bones, and beat dead horses. Kilt up, carry on, and enjoy the ride.
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  8. #125
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    Okay. This is a second warning.

    We're way off topic. Some posts are starting to be interpretable in very political ways, possibly racist.

    It stops now or I'll lock the thread. Even if I do, that doesn't mean that someone might not flag one or another of the posts.

    Back to the topic of kilt-wearing, thank you.
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Retired Parish Priest & Elementary Headmaster, lover of God, people (most of them!) dogs, joy, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, dreamer, traditionalist, bon-vivant, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Sinclair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highland Logan View Post
    Many bad things happened in the past, but as a Canadian, although our way forward as a nation was not perfect, I would not characterise what happened here as a genocide.
    Frank,

    I don't want to take this thread away from the topic but I wanted to go on the record as saying I completely disagree with you here. If you wish to take this discussion elsewhere, I'm agreeable. Otherwise, let's try to stick to the topic.

    Regards,
    Jonathan

    P.S. OOOPS! Just read Father Bill's post. Agreed, FB!

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  12. #127
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    FB, just got email notice of your post. If that was directed at my post, apologies. My intent was exactly the opposite.
    No matter how much we focus on differences, around the world across all parameters we are extremely similar. Ancient
    travel evidence suggests one family, as travelers of all types tend to leave descendants scattered behind them. The
    speakers of the cited comments were sober and learned spiritual teachers. The point is that our view of the past tends to focus locally, as in not big enough. The discussion on kilts and wearing them will meet acceptance and resistance, as
    opinions vary.

    My summation was, I thought, on subject. Reasoning goes in both directions, so kilt up, carry on, and enjoy the ride.
    In good humor, and having fun.

    Again, apologies to any and all.

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  14. #128
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    Yes.

    Kilts please.
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Retired Parish Priest & Elementary Headmaster, lover of God, people (most of them!) dogs, joy, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, dreamer, traditionalist, bon-vivant, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Sinclair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highland Logan View Post
    You are 100% correct Jock. As to outlandish, you will find many ferries, witchs, warlocks and a whole host of 'sexy' everything. You won't find any real history... for the most part. These events look more like Dungeons and Dragons come to life, minus the dragons.

    Frank
    I frankly don't see the harm in these events. I doubt many people go with any notions that they are experiencing real history. It's just a bit of frivolous fun, and we all probably spend/waste our money in different ways we see as enjoyable.

    Now, I do see an issue with wearing a kilt to these events, especially if one were to do so incorrectly. I would not wear mine there. I appreciate how people in Scotland could see it as disrespectful.

    But still, the intent at such event is just to have fun, not to cast insults.

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    One post has been removed from this thread In Accordance With (IAW) Rule #12

    Rule #12
    - Off Topic Threads & Posts -
    a) The topic of discussion on X Marks is the kilt. Threads or posts not related to the kilt are restricted to either the Events or Community forum sections.
    b) Posts to existing threads must keep to the topic set by the Original Poster (OP). Posts which take a thread off the original topic may be removed.

    This thread is returned to its original location and closed.
    Last edited by Steve Ashton; 21st March 19 at 01:03 AM.
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