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22nd March 20, 10:46 AM
#21
Originally Posted by DougH
Nope, I clicked edit, the link was still there so I clicked preview and it showed up, so I clicked save. No clue. My technical savy is limited to email and excel I'm afraid.
Well, good for you; it's magic!
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22nd March 20, 11:15 AM
#22
Thanks for bringing it to my attention. We will ignore the possibility that I have magical abilities as it would be incredibly depressing to know that I was unaware of them for so long...
Back to the question.
How are sporran cantles typically constructed? Is that leather likely to be cemented, or merely sandwiched between the cantle and bag? I know sporran modification probably isnt a smart move for my first purchase, but I tend to consider myself handy, and I have way too much time to think about this right now being quarantined. My heart isn't set on it, its just the most attractive thing on ebay currently, I'm sure I'll have more ideas/options by Tuesday.
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22nd March 20, 02:21 PM
#23
I took a look at my coyote sporran and the top of the leather cantle is braided on with a thin piece of leather. You can see it on the picture on the UT Kilts website. The bottom of the cantle is sewn on. I wouldn't be surprised if it is glued on too. Since this is the only leather cantle I have seen, I don't know how it compares. I also don't know how it will wear nice it is a recent purchase. The construction appears to be very good. Much better than I would have expected for the money.
Dave
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22nd March 20, 02:47 PM
#24
Originally Posted by Crazy Dave
I took a look at my coyote sporran and the top of the leather cantle is braided on with a thin piece of leather. You can see it on the picture on the UT Kilts website. The bottom of the cantle is sewn on. I wouldn't be surprised if it is glued on too. Since this is the only leather cantle I have seen, I don't know how it compares. I also don't know how it will wear nice it is a recent purchase. The construction appears to be very good. Much better than I would have expected for the money.
Dave
I figured glue would be used. I'll show it to my fiance, but I might just roll with it, red leather and all. A dress sporran is supposed to attract attention right.
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22nd March 20, 03:22 PM
#25
Originally Posted by DougH
... but I might just roll with it, red leather and all. A dress sporran is supposed to attract attention right.
I don’t think of the red leather as a drawback, but an enhancement. It highlights the cutouts in the cantle and provides a bit of contrast and emphasis of the cutouts in a subtle, traditional way. When I had a dressy sheep sporran made to re-bag a sterling cantle with cutouts, I chose to include a red leather insert for just that reason.
“It’s not a bug; it’s a feature.”
I think you’ve found a beauty, and I wouldn’t change a thing.
Cheers,
SM
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22nd March 20, 03:35 PM
#26
Originally Posted by ShaunMaxwell
I don’t think of the red leather as a drawback, but an enhancement. It highlights the cutouts in the cantle and provides a bit of contrast and emphasis of the cutouts in a subtle, traditional way. When I had a dressy sheep sporran made to re-bag a sterling cantle with cutouts, I chose to include a red leather insert for just that reason.
“It’s not a bug; it’s a feature.”
I think you’ve found a beauty, and I wouldn’t change a thing.
Cheers,
SM
Posting pictures of that gem just isn't fair.... I immediately become dissatisfied with everything. That is a heirloom quality piece right there, and I hope you find plenty of opportunities to wear it.
But yes, I think I'm gonna pull the trigger. Just waiting for the fiancee to rubber stamp it.
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22nd March 20, 03:59 PM
#27
Now that stands out!
Dave
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23rd March 20, 04:37 AM
#28
Originally Posted by figheadair
I've never been a fan of the so-called Bonnie Prince Charlie sporran. The original, which I've seen close up, looks to be 19th century rather than mid-18th and I wonder about the attribution.
Attachment 38392
As the various big Highland Dress outfitters were offering them from c1930 to today they strike me as an ordinary leather Day sporran that happens to be covered entirely with sealskin, with an ornamental plate stuck on the flap.
I hadn't make the connexion with the early 19th century military sporrans but you're correct, those were made that way also, a fur body with a fur-covered flap bearing a decorative plate.
Here the sporran has a fur flap, and the rim has expanded to what would become the cantle
One similar is seen in MacLeay; I believe this to be, at the time of the painting, a 70-odd year old sporran
Here, by the Napoleonic period, a patent-leather metal-bound decorative plate had appeared on the flap
When the new long-hair sporrans evolved in the 1840s the 93rd Highlanders retained the old style for their Officers' Levee Dress sporrans, which continued in use for around 150 years
Something akin to this style, but with the pentagonal cantle being merely decorative (not a hinged opening thing like the 93rd/Argylls Levee Dress sporran) was very popular in the mid-to-late 19th century
For sure the 20th century "Prince Charlie" sporran appears to be inspired by those old military types
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23rd March 20, 04:56 AM
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Last edited by OC Richard; 23rd March 20 at 05:06 AM.
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23rd March 20, 07:03 AM
#30
Originally Posted by OC Richard
As the various big Highland Dress outfitters were offering them from c1930 to today they strike me as an ordinary leather Day sporran that happens to be covered entirely with sealskin, with an ornamental plate stuck on the flap.
I hadn't make the connexion with the early 19th century military sporrans but you're correct, those were made that way also, a fur body with a fur-covered flap bearing a decorative plate.
Here, by the Napoleonic period, a patent-leather metal-bound decorative plate had appeared on the flap
And here's an 18th century brass cantled sporran that was upgraded for the chief of the MacDougalls in time for the 1822 fling. The military influence is obvious. Not the most attractive augmentation in my view and today we'd generally opt to keep the original.
Sporran 1.jpg.jpg
Sporran 5.jpg
Last edited by figheadair; 23rd March 20 at 07:04 AM.
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