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    Interesting youth pipers photo

    This photo is up on Ebay now.

    It's one of those photos that rewards close examination.



    I take it to be a youth civilian pipe band. The photo was taken in Dover.

    Their kit is such an interesting mix!

    The doublets have the button-loop braid or "frogging" which is often seen in 19th century military uniforms. They have ordinary plastic buttons.

    Here's a US Army officer's tunic from 1872 showing the "frogging"



    The tartan appears to be Gordon, and they have Gordon Highlanders cap-badges affixed to their Glengarries and crossbelts.

    They're wearing Gordon Highlanders Other Ranks' sporrans (which, incidentally, wouldn't have been worn by Gordon Highlanders' pipers AFAIK).

    I'm particularly interested in two things: the huge oval crossbelt buckle, and their waistbelt plates.

    I've seen those big oval crossbelt buckles before, in a couple photos of a Territorial Battalion of the Seaforth Highlanders in the 1930s



    Most pipers, however, are most familiar with that big oval crossbelt buckle due to John Burgess apparently re-purposing it as a waistbelt buckle as part of this ornate costume



    About the young pipers' belt plates, they look to be the ones worn either by Black Watch pipers or Scots Guards pipers (not the Pipe Majors).

    Here on the left is a Black Watch piper.



    Here's a Scots Guards piper.



    Without seeing the buckles up close I can't see how they differ.
    Last edited by OC Richard; 20th August 20 at 08:13 AM.
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