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    I am amazed at all of your knowledge. I didn't know that there was a "TA" militia in Scotland in the 19th century. It had never occurred to me.
    Those ancient U Nialls from Donegal were a randy bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninehostages View Post
    I am amazed at all of your knowledge. I didn't know that there was a "TA" militia in Scotland in the 19th century. It had never occurred to me.
    There were Militia and Volunteer regiments in Scotland from the late 18th century. In 1908 the remaining ones disappeared under the Haldane Reforms which, amongst other things, set up the Territorial Army (the TA).

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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post
    There were Militia and Volunteer regiments in Scotland from the late 18th century. In 1908 the remaining ones disappeared under the Haldane Reforms which, amongst other things, set up the Territorial Army (the TA).
    I would imagine that they were privately raised units brought into being by local lairds and other assorted rich people.

    Miraculously, the last privately raised regiment in this country is still a part of our regular army 106 years later. They're not kilted, tho.
    Those ancient U Nialls from Donegal were a randy bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post


    Looks like regular Queens Own Cameron Highlanders battalion. Some flares on sporran make it unusual...
    Poor quality photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post
    Richard,

    The tartan looks like MacPherson, Hunting and so I'm pretty sure that this one can only be the 6th Inverness Rifles.
    I found this photo, marked as 13th (Fife/Perthshire) Rifle Volunteers, 1860. It Looks as the same unifrom.
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    In the "Records of the Scottish Volunteer Force 1859-1908" by M-G J.M.Grierson (1909) their uniform described as — dark grey doublets with scarlet facings, Macdonald tartan kilts, plain glengarries, and black belts.
    But I am not sure that it's Macdonald of Ardnamurchan on the photo.

    Question - what kind of MacDonald tartan? For me this tartan looks like Macdonald dress.
    Dear figheadair , what do You think?
    Last edited by blackwatch70; 20th October 20 at 02:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwatch70 View Post
    I found this photo, marked as 13th (Fife/Perthshire) Rifle Volunteers, 1860. It Looks as the same unifrom.
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    In the "Records of the Scottish Volunteer Force 1859-1908" by M-G J.M.Grierson (1909) their uniform described as — dark grey doublets with scarlet facings, Macdonald tartan kilts, plain glengarries, and black belts.
    But I am not sure that it's Macdonald of Ardnamurchan on the photo.

    Question - what kind of MacDonald tartan? For me this tartan looks like Macdonald dress.
    Dear figheadair , what do You think?
    I don't know what book this is from (do tell) but it's wrong. It's not the 13th (Fife/Perthsire) RV but Corporal Angus Cameron of the 6th Inverness Rifles c.1869. Here are a couple more of him. He had some local fame at the time having twice won the Queen's Prize at the National Rifle Meeting of volunteers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post
    I don't know what book this is f?rom (do tell) but it's wrong. It's not the 13th (Fife/Perthsire) RV but Corporal Angus Cameron of the 6th Inverness Rifles c.1869. Here are a couple more of him. He had some local fame at the time having twice won the Queen's Prize at the National Rifle Meeting of volunteers.

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    I found this photo in the Regiment #11 devoted The Black Watch (Royal Highland regiment).
    Thank You for accurate definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwatch70 View Post
    I found this photo in the Regiment #11 devoted The Black Watch (Royal Highland regiment).
    Thank You for accurate definition.
    I don't know the Regiment. Presumably a publication?

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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post
    I don't know the Regiment. Presumably a publication?
    yes, the Regiment was a periodial publication about some regiments of British army.
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    Here is a picture of pages with information about Militia and Volunteers units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwatch70 View Post
    yes, the Regiment was a periodial publication about some regiments of British army.
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    Interesting. Lots of them on ebay so presumably it's no longer published. With regard to this particular issue, clearly the author was wrong in the case of the 13th (Fife/Perthshire) RV.

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