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    RRS sporran cones?

    This guy on Ebay has often put up sporran parts, buckles, etc which always come with tags stating what they are.

    They're always described by the seller as being "prototypes" or "factory samples".

    However the tags nearly always misidentify the items, suggesting that somebody who knows nothing about militaria is writing the tags himself in an attempt to make the items appear more valuable or more rare.

    Misidentified though they be, the items are often interesting.

    Now on Ebay he has two sets of sporran tassel cones, one a set of two cones in some gold finish, the other a set of three cones in some silver finish.

    Both sets have the Royal Regiment Of Scotland badge, and both are labelled "RAF". Now to the best of my knowledge the Royal Air Force's badge isn't a rampant lion over a St Andrew cross.

    Has anyone seen such RRS-badge cones before? All the RRS sporrans I've seen have the old Gordon Highlanders officer's cones.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-RAF-Pi...ndition=4%7C10

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-WM-RAF-Pi...ndition=4%7C10

    These bizarre cones he's selling as Black Watch "factory samples". I think it's obvious that they have nothing to do with the Black Watch or any other military unit.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Black-Wat...ndition=4%7C10
    Last edited by OC Richard; 15th November 20 at 11:45 AM.
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    to be honest, RRS badge includes Queens Crown over the rampant lion, these cones don't.... as You know.
    I was able to find the sporran with similar bells on the Internet. Please also read the lot description.
    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...sgow-245930448
    It has 5 similar cones and named as 602 (CITY OF GLASGOW) SQUADRON sporran.
    So RAF bells look real deal. I suppose WM cones are for pipers, gilt ones are for officers mess dress sporran, but who knows?
    please also check here...
    https://www.rauxaf.net/page181.html

    I agree with You, the "Black Watch cones" - are fake i believe...
    Last edited by blackwatch70; 16th November 20 at 03:22 AM.

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    Thanks!

    Very interesting, I see there the squadron was authorised Highland Dress and had those sporrans created.

    And when I compare the lion on those cones to the RRS cap badge indeed the style of the lion is different.

    It's a very nice and quite distinctive Mess Dress.
    Last edited by OC Richard; 17th November 20 at 11:27 AM.
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