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    Tobus,

    You are right on about sweaters. I have several which I frequently wear with kilts when the weather is right. I especially like a heavy, rib knit, shawl collar number (with Harris Tweed shoulder panels like the wooly pully) that I picked up at the Scottish Shop in Rothenburg, Germany a couple of Christmases ago. I also have a lovely dark greed turtleneck Shetland sweater I bought at the late lamented Britches of Georgetown back in the 1990s. It looks fabulous with my kilt and kept me warm in the frigid cold of Beijing winters.

    The Arran and commando sweaters are both great looks kilted.

    Andrew

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    Yes when I saw this topic I immediately thought of Battle Dress jackets and their many civilian counterparts.

    Battle Dress was introduced in 1937 for British and Commonwealth forces, who entered WWII wearing it



    and it proved so popular that the US Army, the German Army, and civilians copied it.

    We forget now how enormously popular it became as a civilian style in the 1940s and 1950s.

    The other WWII style that became very popular is the A2 flight jacket.



    Both look great with the kilt.

    This illustration, possibly from around 1945, shows a civilian version worn for hiking. I think this style is more inspired by the A2 flight jacket due to the placement of the pockets and ribbed waistband.



    Here are the Alexander Brothers in an elegantly tailored civilian version of the Battle Dress jacket, lacking the "blousing" to the body and sleeves of the original.

    Last edited by OC Richard; 20th December 20 at 07:44 AM.
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    Another classic British option would be a Harrington jacket, cut short with freedom of movement in mind as a showerproof windbreaker for golf 90-odd years ago but adopted in the 60's as everyday wear. The original is still available at a price (this is the button rather than the knit cuff option)

    https://www.baracuta.com/en/shop-icons-g4/

    but everyone makes a version these days. For example -

    https://www.peterchristian.co.uk/wax...n-jacket-olive

    If you have the budget there is a ventile option -

    https://www.privatewhitevc.com/produ...29421716373565

    though I wish I could justify the Grenfell cloth version myself -

    https://grenfell.com/collections/gol...ell-cloth-navy

    Vintage grenfell and ventile cycling jackets sometimes pop up on auction sites, cut short at the front and longer at the back, but they are usually snapped up by the retro cycling crowd.

    Regards EEM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micrographia View Post
    Another classic British option would be a Harrington jacket, cut short with freedom of movement in mind as a showerproof windbreaker for golf 90-odd years ago but adopted in the 60's as everyday wear.
    Regards EEM.
    Now I know what to look for next in the thrift stores!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micrographia View Post
    Another classic British option would be a Harrington jacket, cut short with freedom of movement in mind as a showerproof windbreaker for golf 90-odd years ago...
    Are there photos from the 1930s?

    I suppose I could look at vintage golf photos to see.

    I just looked at Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrington_jacket

    The celebrities mentioned and photos all date to the 1950s and 1960s and in fact one photo shows a jacket clearly derived from the Battle Dress jacket.

    Since Battle Dress wasn't developed until 1937 it could well have been inspired by the Harrington jacket if that can be shown to predate 1937.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    Are there photos from the 1930s?

    I suppose I could look at vintage golf photos to see.

    I just looked at Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrington_jacket

    The celebrities mentioned and photos all date to the 1950s and 1960s and in fact one photo shows a jacket clearly derived from the Battle Dress jacket.

    Since Battle Dress wasn't developed until 1937 it could well have been inspired by the Harrington jacket if that can be shown to predate 1937.
    From the Grenfell Golfer jacket product description -

    "The history of the Grenfell Golfer jacket cannot be understated. A version of this classic all-weather jacket has been present in our collections since 1931, as we've kept pro golfers the world over warm between holes."

    I believe the style was promoted as the Harrington jacket to young Mods in the 60s by an enterprising shop owner who spotted a character in Peyton Place wearing one .

    Regards, EEM.
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    Photos and period advertising here -

    https://grenfell.com/pages/legacy

    Regards, EEM
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    According to this article the Baracuta jacket was launched in 1937.
    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/25...g?v=1552310372

    There are some ads included in the piece, unfortunately none of them are dated eg:




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    Did someone say "Varsity Kilt Jacket"

    I have a number of casual jackets I wear with my kilt, but the comments about varsity jackets made me smile as I remembered this one I came up with in days long past







    I did a similar one for my son's with a Doctor Who theme which my daughter now wears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Scott View Post

    There are some ads included in the piece, unfortunately none of them are dated eg:



    That's very cool! The Grenfell ad likewise looks vintage enough but is undated, so there's no way of affirming the 1931 claim without finding one of their ads in an intact vintage publication with date.



    It's clear that this Highland hiker is wearing that sort of jacket.



    What all the vintage jackets above have, and which is shared by the US Army Air Corps A-2 jacket, are the two large low-placed patch pockets. It makes we wonder which came first, the flying jacket or the Grenfell jacket.

    I notice that the "Harrington" jackets of the 1950s and 1960s tend to lack those, but have two slant slash pockets.

    Battle Dress jackets are a somewhat different beast, lacking the ribbed waistband, and having the pockets up on the chest.
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