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    Where to get Castellated white/cream hose?

    I’m wondering if you know any one who can make cestellated white hose; we’re all familia with the turndown whites that are wverywhere but I’m looking for the castellated type. Thanks

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    Castellated hose were an uncommon Victorian thing, and in the 20th century are seldom seen, generally as part of rather ornate Evening outfits.

    Thus they're tartan or diced, as befits Evening Dress.

    Plain hose traditionally are for Day/Outdoor Dress and have ordinary plain turndown cuffs.

    The hose you're describing combine those two forms of Highland Dress and I imagine you would have to go the bespoke route.

    (In over 45 years of kiltwearing I can't recall seeing hose like that.)

    So here in 1852 are the closest to castellated plain "Day" hose I think I've seen. We can be fairly certain that the whole outfit (spats, hose, tweed kilt, jacket, cap) is grey or taupe.



    Here's a catalogue showing castellated hose in 1936 as part of a rather fancy Prince Charlie outfit, with lace jabot and tartan waistcoat

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    Not sure why you’d want white castellated hose, but you might try here:

    https://blog.kiltmakers.com/2020/02/...d-topped-hose/

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    Kriegbert, I suggest you source a hand-knitter to produce them for you. I doubt you will find anything machine-made. I still have a pair of cream castellated hose hand-knit for my father just after the Second War. I'll find them and attach a pic. Is there a reason you want cream or white? Neither are popular today. In the up-turned version they were formally worn with hand-tied garters, but I'm sure you know that.

    Edit: I've just located them (attached) and now realise that they are not truly castellated, although I recall my father wearing them uncuffed with tied wool garters.

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    Castellated hose

    I believe there is a painting of possibly Lord Breadalbane, done in 1660 by Michael Wright that shows the laird with a pair of diced hose that appear to be pinked or cut in peaked shape under his hand tied garters. Not really castletops,but it may have been a start in that direction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinenotburn View Post
    I believe there is a painting of possibly Lord Breadalbane, done in 1660 by Michael Wright that shows the laird with a pair of diced hose that appear to be pinked or cut in peaked shape under his hand tied garters. Not really castletops,but it may have been a start in that direction.
    You are right about this being the earliest image showing Castellated type hose and was probably the inspiration for some of the images in the Allen Brothers' The Costume of the Clans, pub. 1845.

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    The portrait of Lord Mungo Murray is c1680, not 1660 and there are in fact, three versions. The oldest (left) shows more of the castellation.

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    A study of the tops reveals some type of apparent cuff visible below the garters. It is difficult to understand how this is possible and have a castellated top too.

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    Dual post. Post deleted.

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    Edinburgh tartan socks will make them:
    https://tartansocks.simdif.com/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post
    You are right about this being the earliest image showing Castellated type hose and was probably the inspiration for some of the images in the Allen Brothers' The Costume of the Clans, pub. 1845.

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    The portrait of Lord Mungo Murray is c1680, not 1660 and there are in fact, three versions. The oldest (left) shows more of the castellation.

    Click image for larger version. 

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    A study of the tops reveals some type of apparent cuff visible below the garters. It is difficult to understand how this is possible and have a castellated top too.

    Click image for larger version. 

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    Likely this is extrw long and folded over twice to achieve the effect (three lyers thick) with the outermost layer having a longer fold to protrude above the inner two.

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