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    To me it's about the overall effect of the outfit.

    This photo has always struck me as a bit "loud" for my tastes. The jacket itself isn't the issue, nor is it the kilt, but the juxtaposition of the two:



    Not a tweed, but a tartan, jacket IMHO combined in the worst imaginable way:

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    To me it's about the overall effect of the outfit.

    This photo has always struck me as a bit "loud" for my tastes. The jacket itself isn't the issue, nor is it the kilt, but the juxtaposition of the two:



    Not a tweed, but a tartan, jacket IMHO combined in the worst imaginable way:

    The top picture above is what I would call loud and in fact demonstrates well what I am trying to say. The kilt--------I have never seen a kilt made of shepherds check in the wild---------is there in all its glory and so is the jacket. Both patterns in this top picture do not "suffer" from the tattersall effect so the respective patterns are clear for all to see from a range of probably 20/30 yards.

    Your new Jacket does have the Tattersall effect(not a bad thing) working for it and in consequence I personally would not call your new jacket "loud". It was your choice and I quite accept that and if you are happy with that, then, who am I to comment. However on a purely theoretical point this conversation may be helpful to others who perhaps are struggling with the theory.

    I was lucky in my youth as I had many examples of loud tweeds(a fashion at the time) worn with the kilt to study. Some to my eye worked and some did not. These days, they are a rare sight as fashions have changed, rather sad in a way. But as to your first picture I think its fantastic! As to the second picture, comment would be superfluous!
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    Dual post. Post deleted. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMurdo View Post
    I was reading Richards thread on his new jacket here:

    http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-argyll-97345/

    It got me to thinking about loud tweeds, I have dabbled in louder than average tweeds before and thought instead of hijacking that thread I would start my own. So let's talk tweed Argyll jackets, what are your favourite tweeds on the louder side of things? A blue or green Lovat is a classic there is no doubt about that, I have both in my wardrobe, but what about a busier tweed or even a tartan jacket, which is your fav and would you post a photo?

    I'll start with the Burns Check Argyll that I was lucky enough to find on eBay some years ago:



    This photo below happens to be one of my favourite photos of me in Highland wear, this was taken at the Cambridge Ontario Highland Games years ago, I was there with my friend Nathan. They used this photo in the local newspaper and it was blown up very large indeed.



    I absolutely love this jacket, it works well in the fall into the winter, not so great for the summer months as the tweed is thick but it does keep you warm in the elements and it makes a statement. I think it took me a while to gain the confidence to wear an Argyll with such a bold scheme but once I did it was liberating. I will say this is not everyone's cup of tea and it would not work as your only jacket, but if you have a collection, a bold tweed does have it's place.
    Loud..?

    Surely not. The volume can be turned up quite a few notches before it unsettles the natives and frightens the horses.

    Set against the rather somber tones of the Black Watch kilt, which produces a pleasant background hum for the melody of the Burns check, it plays a sweet tune to my ears.

    But here is something we all may have seen before, which shows a fair tradtition of such tweed-and-tartan ensembles -

    Vintage kilt & tweeds.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post
    Loud..?

    Surely not. The volume can be turned up quite a few notches before it unsettles the natives and frightens the horses.

    Set against the rather somber tones of the Black Watch kilt, which produces a pleasant background hum for the melody of the Burns check, it plays a sweet tune to my ears.

    But here is something we all may have seen before, which shows a fair tradtition of such tweed-and-tartan ensembles -

    Vintage kilt & tweeds.jpg
    This was the discourse I was expecting, thank you for your kind words and the example. The tartan in my second photo is Graham of Mentieth by the way, it is to my eye not busy so the Burns Check works well if you ask me. I may not wear it with the Royal Stewart, for example, but then again I may depending on my mood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Good question. I think the problem is solvable, with difficulty, with some tartans. An example is Glen's rather loud tartan jacket that he has displayed here. Its a completely different colour to the kilt and therefore it stands out as a completely different entity to the kilt. Care needs to be taken though as "loud" could very easily turn into "brash". Also reds, blues and nuclear colours of greens and yellows would not work.

    I also think window pain patterned tweed, can look rather insipid as a kilt jacket, on the other hand a really loud window pain Tweed can usually look a disaster! But, BUT, some a very few can be effective. Its a huge trial and error exercise. But I was lucky here in Scotland I could see what worked for my peers!
    I'd love to pull this thread a bit further, so to speak. I have a fair few tweeds in my closet, though only one of them is a kilt cut, and it's currently out for alterations. But I'm a big fan of checks and houndstooths and marles and...well, you get the point.

    The jacket here is something like a mini-check or puppytooth pattern. From even 5ft away, it just looks like a brown coat, but at close range, you can see the alternating brown and khaki, and there's even a thin navy windowpane. I wouldn't call it loud, but it's definitely busier than a lovat green or charcoal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMurdo View Post
    This was the discourse I was expecting, thank you for your kind words and the example. The tartan in my second photo is Graham of Mentieth by the way, it is to my eye not busy so the Burns Check works well if you ask me. I may not wear it with the Royal Stewart, for example, but then again I may depending on my mood.
    I much prefer the bottom tartan (graham) with that tweed pattern to the top one.

    I’m not sure why. Perhaps the white tones down the contrast a wee bit? It may also be that the black watch is so dark that the pattern is less obvious and again increases the contrast between jacket and kilt.

    I’ve always loved that photo of you and Nathan. Both your outfits are really well done there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    To me it's about the overall effect of the outfit.

    This photo has always struck me as a bit "loud" for my tastes. The jacket itself isn't the issue, nor is it the kilt, but the juxtaposition of the two:



    Not a tweed, but a tartan, jacket IMHO combined in the worst imaginable way:

    OUCH!!! How do you say "dog's breakfast" in the Gaelic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninehostages View Post
    OUCH!!! How do you say "dog's breakfast" in the Gaelic?
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    OK this is just ghastly, just by itself!

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