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    Bowtie Question

    Does anyone know where I would be able to buy a bowtie like the one in the photo? I had been under the impression that bowties were for formal occasions. Was it more common in Victorian times to wear a bowtie with day wear?

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    Bowties have always been, and still are appropriate for daywear, just not black silk ones. The one in the photo is very dated in style and would look terribly out of place today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    Bowties have always been, and still are appropriate for daywear, just not black silk ones. The one in the photo is very dated in style and would look terribly out of place today.
    I really like the look of that bow tie. It seems less formal somehow. I’m having a jacket like that made in the fall when I can get to Scotland to get measured. I’ll be happy to look terribly out of place.

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    It reminds me of Col. Sanders from KFC.

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    You might search for 'string tie' rather than 'bow tie'.

    I agree with Father Bill. In most situations, that particular style would look a bit anachronistic. To each their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by piperalpha View Post
    Does anyone know where I would be able to buy a bowtie like the one in the photo? I had been under the impression that bowties were for formal occasions. Was it more common in Victorian times to wear a bowtie with day wear?

    https://flic.kr/p/2ogqWTq
    Look for
    "historical western wear" (in the US)
    "Regency clothing" (in the UK, primarily)
    The western wear company I've used doesn't show up any longer, but I've also used Darcy Clothing, which is a UK company that specializes in providing clothing for the film and theater community.
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    Darcy clothing is a great resource - Victorian Bow Tie.

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    Thanks for the recommendations.

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    As people are saying bow ties went out of fashion in Highland Day Dress by around World War One.

    About "bow ties" versus "string ties" these are modern labels for modern ties.

    The distinction, and ties like our modern bow ties, string ties, long ties, cravats, etc didn't exist in Victorian times.

    From looking at photos and paintings from that time it looks like ties were ties. They varied in width, and men tied them in a variety of different ways.

    Here are six ties from MacLeay (1860s). The ones tied like bow ties are just straight ties, not shaped like modern bow ties, as can be seen when they're not tied neatly.

    The piper appears to be wearing something like our modern "long ties" but they didn't exist then. Even in the 1940s men's "long ties" weren't very long, ending partway down the chest and not meeting even the high-waisted trousers of that time.

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