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15th November 23, 06:59 PM
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Difference between them
I'm looking to get buy another kilt and I see to many options. Its all German to me.
I'm looking at another wool kilt from USA Kilts in Stewart Black and not sure which one to get.
I live in Springfield, Oregon not real cold in the winter, it has its days.
Can someone explain the difference with these different tartans
Price doesn't scare me much, I ordered the Welsh 8 Yard Wool Dress Cilt from Wales Tartan Centres and should be here in the next couple of days.
https://www.welsh-tartan.com/shop/pr...ool-dress-kilt
Would like to get another being as good as this or better. The Tartans have different Mills and weight
Last edited by Itsivxx; 15th November 23 at 07:01 PM.
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15th November 23, 07:41 PM
#2
Keep in mind you can always order fabric swatches.
Tha mi uabhasach sgith gach latha.
“A man should look as if he has bought his clothes (kilt) with intelligence, put them (it) on with care, and then forgotten all about them (it).” Paraphrased from Hardy Amies
Proud member of the Clans Urquhart and MacKenzie.
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15th November 23, 07:50 PM
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 Originally Posted by kilted2000
Keep in mind you can always order fabric swatches.
Yes I know, still confused
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15th November 23, 08:13 PM
#4
The same tartan made by the different mills have small differences between them, mainly the sett size and the exact coloring. But unless you were comparing them side to side you probably wouldn't notice. 13 or 16oz obviously is about the overall weight of the fabric. Most prefer 16oz because it supposedly 'swishes' better in the pleats. Any mill that USA Kilts buys fabric from will be quality.
Tha mi uabhasach sgith gach latha.
“A man should look as if he has bought his clothes (kilt) with intelligence, put them (it) on with care, and then forgotten all about them (it).” Paraphrased from Hardy Amies
Proud member of the Clans Urquhart and MacKenzie.
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15th November 23, 08:24 PM
#5
You will not be disappointed with any offerings from USA Kilts. I have four of their kilts thus far and there are two more on the way (should be here for Christmas) that my wife ordered for me when we visited the USAKilts store three weeks ago.
If you are too busy to laugh, you are too busy.
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15th November 23, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Couper
You will not be disappointed with any offerings from USA Kilts. I have four of their kilts thus far and there are two more on the way (should be here for Christmas) that my wife ordered for me when we visited the USAKilts store three weeks ago.
Yes that I know...I have many Kilts from them
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16th November 23, 02:42 AM
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Each mill has its website where you can look at the mill's own photos and descriptions, which can help.
Translating the "German"
MM: Marton Mills https://martonmills.com/product-category/tartans/
STR: Strathmore https://www.strathmorewoollen.co.uk/...tartan-fabric/
LOCH: Lochcarron https://www.lochcarron.co.uk/fabric-.../tartan-fabric
HOE: House of Edgar https://www.houseofedgar.com/product...artan-fabrics/
BAT: Batley
It's good to look over the actual weaver's site for various reasons, for example with Marton Mills I discovered that
1) they sent me samples for free
2) after I got several samples in hand, I found the colours shown on the Marton Mills website were much more accurate than the colours shown on the USA Kilts website.
The other thing that's important to find out (for me) is the sett size, which some makers list.
I think a man's kilt looks best with a large sett size.
Last edited by OC Richard; 18th November 23 at 07:57 AM.
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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16th November 23, 02:47 AM
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Personally if I were going to buy a kilt in Black Stewart I would almost certainly go with Marton Mills'
Stewart Black Muted
https://martonmills.com/product/stewart-m-black/
For one thing, I very much prefer 16 ounce wool over any other kilt fabric.
It just looks better and feels better, IMHO.
BTW I don't know the difference between these two 16 ounce House of Edgar tartans, which USA Kilts lists as
Stewart Black Modern
Stewart Black Modern (N)
I'm assuming that the N stands for Nevis, that is, House of Edgar's "Nevis" range of tartans
https://www.houseofedgar.com/product...nevis-tartans/
Thing is, I don't know what makes "Nevis" 16 ounce tartans different from their non-Nevis 16 ounce tartans.
I'm sure that if we had swatches of both in hand there would be a difference.
My other choice for Stewart Black would be House of Edgar's "Hebridean" range
https://www.houseofedgar.com/product...idean-tartans/
Last edited by OC Richard; 16th November 23 at 07:35 AM.
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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16th November 23, 03:11 AM
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Last edited by OC Richard; 16th November 23 at 03:18 AM.
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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16th November 23, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by OC Richard
Thing is, I don't know what makes "Nevis" 16 ounce tartans different from their non-Nevis 16 ounce tartans.
For one thing, they list the heavyweight tartan as having a traditional selvedge where the Nevis has a tuck selvedge. There may be other differences in the cloth aside from weight (which appears to be the same between the two), but the difference in selvedge tells me that they are woven on different looms. So aside from the selvedge, the 'hand' may be different, as well as perhaps the warp/weft proportions, etc.
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