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13th May 11, 06:40 AM
#41
I recently saw a photo of Marc Jacobs and his companion, both kilted for a social event. Neither was wearing a sporran. I guess that is accepted as a fashion statement, and thus how young guys like Curt(?) would understand the kilt is worn.
Were they to wear it regularly, they would find out differently.
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13th May 11, 06:53 AM
#42
 Originally Posted by Galician
I recently saw a photo of Marc Jacobs and his companion, both kilted for a social event. Neither was wearing a sporran. I guess that is accepted as a fashion statement, and thus how young guys like Curt(?) would understand the kilt is worn.
Were they to wear it regularly, they would find out differently.
This is one of those things that really irks me about the wearing of the kilt in the modern fashion world.
Do you think that the sporran is so often avoided because most formal options have fur?
I just can't understand why it's neglected so darn often. Without the sporran, the kilt looks much more like a skirt to me. (Why I usually suggest for my female friends who want to wear a kilt to go sans sporran and avoid kilt hose.)
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13th May 11, 07:00 AM
#43
That is an interesting point about the fur. It might very well be that they aren't aware of leather as an option. 
On the other hand, in this day and age, attending a social event doesn't seem to require the wearing of a sporran. All that one needs to carry for the few hours spent while attending is cash and one's car keys (or a Metrocard here in NYC). So maybe they just consider it too bulky for comfort or for the look they want.
P.S. Change cash to a credit card!
Last edited by Galician; 13th May 11 at 07:01 AM.
Reason: add p.s.
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13th May 11, 07:08 AM
#44
 Originally Posted by Galician
That is an interesting point about the fur. It might very well be that they aren't aware of leather as an option.
On the other hand, in this day and age, attending a social event doesn't seem to require the wearing of a sporran. All that one needs to carry for the few hours spent while attending is cash and one's car keys (or a Metrocard here in NYC). So maybe they just consider it too bulky for comfort or for the look they want.
P.S. Change cash to a credit card! 
Or maybe they find it odd or uncomfortable to wear a sporran. Thinking about it, where do most newbies place it? Usually far too low. It sags, it presses into the kilt and makes one look frumpy or disshevelled. Can't have that on TV or with celebrities, where appearance is everything. So maybe that is part of it too? I'm curious if they bought a sporran to go with the ensemble and then decided against it? Did they start with what's typical and then begin dressing it down/making fashion adjustments?
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13th May 11, 09:01 AM
#45
While I agree that a traditional kilt should be accompanied by a sporran, just the other day I accidentally ventured out without one myself. Noone seemed to notice.
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13th May 11, 09:04 AM
#46
 Originally Posted by xman
While I agree that a traditional kilt should be accompanied by a sporran, just the other day I accidentally ventured out without one myself. Noone seemed to notice.
It's one thing to go without in a t-shirt and sandals--or even just regular casual. But for formal events you just look incomplete.
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13th May 11, 09:26 AM
#47
I watch Glee...I like Glee...it's just fun. One thing I have to point out is that the character Kurt is not a crossdresser...he's just pushing the limits as the only out gay student at an Ohio High School. He dresses up. As one song went many years ago, "drag is something each of us does every single day."
It was a bit dark, so it took me a bit to see that it was definitely a Black Watch kilt. I have to confess, I didn't realize he wasn't wearing a sporran. He looked well turned out...though, yeah, the bow tie could have been better. I thought the leggings/boots were a bit much, but completely in keeping with his character.
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13th May 11, 10:04 AM
#48
 Originally Posted by Semiomniscient
It's one thing to go without in a t-shirt and sandals--or even just regular casual. But for formal events you just look incomplete.
agreed
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13th May 11, 10:13 AM
#49
 Originally Posted by auld argonian
Why is there this negative presumption that Kurt's outfit was going to be somehow inappropriate or inadequate?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIWavgFwWsc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgU1f_LcCxs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0l9FYk9FgQ&NR=1
Need I say more?
I do have to say that it sounds like they treated the whole thing with at least a little bit of dignity. Would be nice, though, to see more diversity among kilt wearers. It's either made an object of ridicule, or worn by feminine men, perpetuating stereotypes. Takes me back to my Speedy Gonzales analogy... Those YouTube videos are perfectly fine; this:

is racist and stereotyping. Ditching the double standards would be nice...
Last edited by Nighthawk; 13th May 11 at 10:27 AM.
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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15th May 11, 03:30 PM
#50
I know Glee has done Singing in the Rain. It would be interesting to see them do Brigadoon.
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