New Mario Grandi tobacco pipe

**thescot** · 15th December 11, 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=pugcasso;1045287. . .Cigarettes, cigars and tobacco pipes should be considered differently (typically , cigarettes should be separately pondered from cigars/pipes) . . . I love pipes ..... or any nicely made creation (especially wood, fabric or metal)[/QUOTE]

Ah, a wise man who knows how to control his habits. That's a mark of a gentleman. Starting to smoke a pipe at 39 is nothing like starting to smoke cigarettes at 12! Ha. I am glad to know that we are dealing with a grown man.

I am happy that you can enjoy your pipe, and I wish I could dare to do so. (Borkum Riff was one of my favorites along with a custom apple blend from the local tobacconer.) Again, that's a nice pipe.

**pugcasso** · 15th December 11, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by thescot

Ah, a wise man who knows how to control his habits. That's a mark of a gentleman. Starting to smoke a pipe at 39 is nothing like starting to smoke cigarettes at 12! Ha. I am glad to know that we are dealing with a grown man.

I am happy that you can enjoy your pipe, and I wish I could dare to do so. (Borkum Riff was one of my favorites along with a custom apple blend from the local tobacconer.) Again, that's a nice pipe.

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I'm not sure it's the sign of a wise man being able to "control his habits" ... (I don't feel I have to control this as a habit) ... maybe because pipe smoking typically is less addictive than cigarettes.

I never really got exposed to cigarettes due to being somewhat of a hermit for quite a while LOL...

I have no idea of what cigarettes are like but perhaps they are more intense and feel differently since they are inhaled into the lungs (whereas pipes and cigars typically are not).

Cigarettes are quite different than pipe tobaccos in many ways (even the paper and adhesives in cigarettes play a part).

I sometimes feel maybe I shouldn't have started smoking the pipe.... but I also am a bit leary of "statistics" and the use of stats by various alleged experts and government-backed agencies (with who-knows-what agendas or financial backings by who-knows-what powerful sponsors and lobbyists )... often, similar government-backed agencies (eg... FDA) have passed substances which I feel are known toxins (at least in my opinion) ... Aspertame being a good example.

So, it comes down to a decision I made... and we shall see how it plays out in time (in this lifetime).

And so sometimes I tend to bypass the alleged experts of our current age and delve back in time to the ancient days.... the opinions of the residents of the earlier Americas (who used more natural tobaccos....and not cigarettes).

I know that Tobacco has a "spiritual power" .... I can feel how it gives me some centred calm feeling ..... I think/feel this is why it was a spiritually sacred plant to the ancients. Perhaps it can be used in a better way than our culture has typically used it.

I've found that pipe smoking is best done in a relaxed atmosphere and state of mind... it needs more care and attention (and ritual) than I have observed typically cigarette smokers extend to this plant.

Maybe it is our typical attitude towards this plant that is the main problem ... how the convenient and instant cigarette had become the dominant fashion in our culture ... bypassing the more careful , relaxed, meditative pipe.

Just my opinion....

(I don't mean to criticize cigarette smokers in comparison to pipe and cigar smokers... I just feel that there is a huge difference)

At any rate... even in the future if I give up smoking tobacco .... perhaps I will still collect pipes... and buy some tobaccos to just smell them haha.

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"I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgement in all human affairs." ~ Albert Einstein, 1950"

"…So it shall be for all time. If discord has broken out between two beings, let them smoke together. United by this bond, they will live in peace and friendship thereafter.”

~ Attributed to the Great Manitu, the Great Spirit."

[my research into the idea of the "Great Spirit" suggest that a better translation of that term is the "Great Mystery" ... personally I like this idea... the idea of the 'Ultimate Reality' as being *not comprehensible* by typical human rational thought and language (ie, symbolic language or limited symbol-based "box-like" intellectual expression of ideas) ... but by some irrational deeper experience that cannot be expressed in words]

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"I don’t want any of your statistics; I took your whole batch and lit my pipe with it. I hate your kind of people. You are always ciphering out how much a man’s health is injured, and how much his intellect is impaired, and how many pitiful dollars and cents he wastes in the course of ninety-two years’ indulgence in the fatal practice of smoking; and in the equally fatal practice of drinking coffee; and in playing billiards occasionally; and in taking a glass of wine at dinner, etc. etc. And you are always figuring out how many women have been burned to death because of the dangerous fashion of wearing expansive hoops, etc. etc. You never see more than one side of the question.

You are blind to the fact that most old men in America smoke and drink coffee, although, according to your theory, they ought to have died young; and that hearty old Englishmen drink wine and survive it, and portly old Dutchmen both drink and smoke freely, and yet grow older and fatter all the time. And you never try to find out how much solid comfort, relaxation, and enjoyment a man derives from smoking in the course of a lifetime (which is worth ten times the money he would save by letting it alone), nor the appalling aggregate of happiness lost in a lifetime by your kind of people from not smoking. Of course you can save money by denying yourself all those little vicious enjoyments for fifty years; but then what can you do with it? What use can you put it to? Money can’t save your infinitesimal soul. All the use that money can be put to is to purchase comfort and enjoyment in this life; therefore, as you are an enemy to comfort and enjoyment where is the use of accumulating cash?" ~ Mark Twain

**Lime** · 16th December 11, 04:05 AM

(I don't feel I have to control this as a habit)

I'm exactly the same; I love my pipe and genuinely enjoy a good smoke but I will go months at a time without even thinking of having a puff. On another day I will fancy a good smoke and enjoy a quiet evening having a few bowlfuls.

That pipe really is a beauty; I will keep an eye on the company.

**Tobus** · 16th December 11, 10:33 AM

It's a very interesting pipe, I'll give it that! Not really my cup of tea, but the workmanship looks pretty good. I've never seen one like it, with a mixture of visual styles like that. The traditional rough-looking bowl portion seems to contrast with the very angular stem. Very unique!

I'm mainly a cigarette smoker (bad habit, I know, but I've never been more than a pack a day smoker). But usually in the fall/winter/spring months I like to smoke a pipe after work. Mine is a Peterson that I bought new several years ago. It took me a lot longer to get it broke in than I thought! I think I'll go with estate pipes from now on when buying other pipes, just to avoid the hassle and frustration.