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                                                1st April 11, 10:46 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Have a go with this. 
 
  
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                                                1st April 11, 11:20 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					It's a twill weave, symmetrical sett. Sample swatch?The blue and red are vibrant, but the green is a little pale. Makes me think that it was a choice or limitation based on the availability of green dye stuffs rather than weathering.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                1st April 11, 12:51 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I can't determine its symetry,  but is everything from the broad blue stripe towards the edge a border?  If so that would make this the corner of a larger piece.  If not, then the sett is much larger than the piece shown.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd April 11, 09:29 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					If the sett is symmetrical, I expect that the left and bottom edges are edges of the original cloth.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd April 11, 09:31 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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                                                2nd April 11, 09:57 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Was that "huh" for me? What I mean is that I am guessing that the bottom edge is a selvage and the left edge is an end. All the edges are frayed now, so it's a bit difficult to tell. However, the bottom edge is frayed less, and partly for that reason I believe it's a selvage. The other reason I believe it's a selvage is because there appear to be a few stripes near it (i.e. the bottom edge), and also near the left edge, that do not appear to be repeated elsewhere in the sett.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd April 11, 09:27 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by figheadair   
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					  Originally Posted by xman   It's a twill weave, symmetrical sett. Sample swatch?The blue and red are vibrant, but the green is a little pale. Makes me think that it was a choice or limitation based on the availability of green dye stuffs rather than weathering.
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	No evidence of it being a corner. The full sett can be determined.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by HeathBar   I can't determine its symetry,  but is everything from the broad blue stripe towards the edge a border?  If so that would make this the corner of a larger piece.  If not, then the sett is much larger than the piece shown. 
 
 
	Not a selvedge in sight.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Morris at Heathfield   Was that "huh" for me? What I mean is that I am guessing that the bottom edge is a selvage and the left edge is an end. All the edges are frayed now, so it's a bit difficult to tell. However, the bottom edge is frayed less, and partly for that reason I believe it's a selvage. The other reason I believe it's a selvage is because there appear to be a few stripes near it (i.e. the bottom edge), and also near the left edge, that do not appear to be repeated elsewhere in the sett. 
 Keep those thoughts coming.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                4th April 11, 03:20 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	In that case, my guess is that both pivot stripes are red. One is six threads wide (and is almost on the left and bottom edges of the piece) and the other is about sixteen threads wide, and is between two narrower green stripes.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by figheadair   The full sett can be determined. 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                5th April 11, 10:02 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by Morris at Heathfield   In that case, my guess is that both pivot stripes are red. One is six threads wide (and is almost on the left and bottom edges of the piece) and the other is about sixteen threads wide, and is between two narrower green stripes.   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th April 11, 09:38 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					No other thoughts anyone?
				 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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