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18th June 14, 02:00 PM
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trying to find out if I do have Scottish or Irish heritage
BLACKWELL is on my moms side, my grandfather's mom was a Blackwell and my Grandma's maiden name is LAMBERT... My Great Grandma ( my grandma's mom on my mom side ) maiden name is SYNDER... My father was German ( don't know much about that side of family ).... I have read that Blackwells came from England but some went to Ireland.. looked up Lambert for a tartan and a few popped up. So being that there are Lambert tartans does that mean its Scottish ? My grand dad has been dead since 1994.. but my Grandma is 100 & looks great and her wits are still about. I will be asking if she knows when I see her next week. But she may not even know. I know I have French, Dutch, English and German.. I just would like to know if I do have Scottish / Irish in my blood. Even if its itty bitty.. If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. ...
Last edited by Angela Kaye Bodine; 18th June 14 at 02:04 PM.
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18th June 14, 04:16 PM
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These links may help with your search.
https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/blackwell
and the census distribution for 1881
http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Ma...y=GB&type=name
All seem to indicate and English/Saxon name.
But there were Lamberts in Scotland in the same year - Gallashiels and Kirkcaldy (Fife)
http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Ma...y=GB&type=name
https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/lambert
President, Clan Buchanan Society International
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18th June 14, 05:48 PM
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Thank you very much ctbuchanan ! I appreciate it, I will definitely look into it ..Thank u..
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19th June 14, 01:46 AM
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 Originally Posted by ctbuchanan
A word of caution- www.surnamedb.com got the origins of my name totally wrong!
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19th June 14, 06:13 AM
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Thank you Calgacus ! I shall take a look.. I appreciate it
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19th June 14, 11:57 AM
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 Originally Posted by Calgacus
They partially stabbed in the right direction with my surname but it was vague and generalised. I rate it 2 1/2 stars on the accuracy front.
Angela, there is no substitute for good geneological research. Be aware, however, that in many cases records get lost.
For example, the 1840 US Census was lost in a fire. I mean the records for literally the entire US population...gone...destroyed...burnt to a crisp!
Sadly, in the US many lines are untraceable passed a certain date (1840) and an amount of either acceptance or reasonable deduction based upon the 1830 and 1850 censuses must be made.
The lucky ones are folks who have only been here since the late 1800s onward.
Also, spellings sometimes changed in many cases, especially in the hill country where literacy was minimal.
Census takers usually jotted down their notes as best they could. In the early days they knocked on your door and anyone could answer their very brief questions. They were seldom thorough.
Another thing to consider: in the early days of the US, there was no immigration in the modern sense. One disappeared from the parish records in the old country and popped up without notice in the new country. Sometimes people intentionally concealed their national origins (the Irish, Chinese, and Germans [to name a few]did this a LOT during some of America's less admirable periods) by switching names altogether or fibbing about their birthplaces. A Schmidt might say he was a Smith, for example.
Lastly, many names were documented phonetically. The census taker would say, "what is your name?" The reply might be "Colbert" (pronouncing the "T" in the British fashion). They might ask for the spelling. If none could be provided they might jot down "Kolbert" (spelled in the German fashion).
I picked an unusual surname to illustrate my point (we spell it with a "C" and pronounce the "T" in the British fashion in my family).
Best of luck.
CORRECTION: 1890 census burnt in a 1921 fire, NOT 1840 census. The point still stands, though.
Last edited by TheOfficialBren; 20th June 14 at 07:41 PM.
Reason: Correction: 1890 census lost in a 1921 fire, not 1840 census
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19th June 14, 02:06 PM
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In some of my own research I have found that for some reason the census takers start using just first initial with last name but listing no gender. Good luck in your research and have fun with it. We found an old first name and my daughter real likes it and wants to use it when she and her husband have children.
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20th June 14, 03:08 PM
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Hi TheOfficialBren !! Wow thank you.. I've already have dabbled in some reading.. still need to do more.I thank you very much for telling me that records could get destroyed etc. Much to do and think..Thank you ... Angie
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20th June 14, 03:14 PM
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Thank you Richrail ! Yes it seems I have some work ahead but its fun work.that is cool that your daughter would like to do with the name. .. thank you.again.... Angie
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4th September 14, 02:59 PM
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dear maam,
I had my grandfather's name and grgrandfathers name and knew what towns they were sposed to be from ..I used the library free census geneology to chase ..this one and that one ..
I worked my way to ..knowing a detail Granda always said they were tied to the Douglasses ..and found a Morrisons had married a Janet Douglass and had son named David ..they moved ..to Stirling ..and then to Cowie ..then to Aberdeen and GrGranda joined them ..
they list the ages and names ..the info CAN BE WRONG ..so you might see all ages in family rounded to 5 yrs groups ..or this one's age swapped with that one ..it's like a riddle and detective job ..
get a pad ..divide among ..families ..and known info listed #1 ..cousins may give tidbits ..
as you access the geneology software you can modify included info ..birth year +/- 3 or 5 years ..and see what pops up ..much Scottish ..Census info is available but they have 100 yr rules too ..but you might ..contact ..municipality or get a cousin ..thru ..other folks having ..researched prior to you . print the results ..bind them ..make a reference number to each doc ..A family B family etc .. A-16 for example ..say a census result for 1880 Family results . ..you can also run the father ..or mother and maiden name ..church info ..and the older children and where they might have lived when they were first married ..
good luck
dave
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