Well, my son this weekend gave me his measurements what he wanted and where he wanted me to order from and gave me the money for his first kilt. His choice Blackwatch 8yd acrylic from UT kilts, I asked him why and he said he went through my kilts and saw my Stillwater Standard and my Stillwater Economy and like the look of the standard pleats but didn't that much money. He told me the reviews were good and that his size was sold out, but he emailed Brice and he found one for him. What could I say, I ordered it

Muffinman