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    When should a kilt NOT be worn?

    Let me first say that I am not trying to start a discussion specifically about religion. I know that would be against the forum rules and I completely agree with the reasoning behind it. But as I am trying to wear my kilt more often I was wondering what others of the Rabble thought about a particular issue.

    I attend a religious service every Sunday. I was thinking about wearing my kilt but then I came across this article by former XMarks member Matt Newsome. He gives his reasoning for NOT wearing a kilt to church. The fact that I am of the same denomination as him gives his thoughts extra weight for me. His reasoning makes some sense to me, but I know that many here wear their kilts to religious services and I wanted to get their thoughts and reasonings. I am not trying to start an argument, and I have no problem with kilt-wearing in a religious context. I just want to make sure that if I decided not to wear a kilt to a service that I am doing so for a good reason and not because I am just worried about what people might think.

    Are there certain times not to kilt up? The advice is often given on this site that if you might distract from the person who is supposed to be the center of attention then you should wear trousers. Does this general advice apply in this case or am I overthinking things again? Mods please delete if this post violates any rules. That is not my intention but I understand that it might.

    The article I am talking about is found here.
    https://albanach.org/why-i-didnt-wea...r-c990206163fa
    Last edited by kilted2000; 28th February 22 at 08:39 PM.
    Tha mi uabhasach sgith gach latha.
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    Not sure the denomination you reference but guessing it's one of the Christian ones.

    If I remember correctly their main dude lived unbifurcated.

    If it's a denomination that tells folks what they can wear and not wear....there are other options.

    Have seen many posts of guys going to their church proudly kilted. Even became a thing with the LDS. Have a collection of pics of kilted LDS guys proudly kilted at their church/ward that have posted on X Marks.

    If their main dude happened to come back and be sitting in your church don't think he'd mind if you were kilted.

    Go for it.
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    A good question. I suppose parachuting and deep sea diving are the obvious answers and I can just recall that tree climbing was not the best place to wear the kilt either. However, there are other more serious considerations to take into account too, when deciding when and where to wear the kilt.

    I think that if the element of the “ look at me” syndrome, which is inevitably a consideration, is going to override other people’s sensibilities then the kilt should not be worn. Even in Highland Scotland there are times when I do ask myself if wearing the kilt is a good idea and sometimes even I, as a hardened longtime kilt wearer, do decide that discretion and consideration of others on a particular occasion is not the place for the kilt to be worn.
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    not necessarily true

    I was LDS for 50 years and that was one of the issues for the was. When sons started wearing kilts the bishop told them in no uncertain terms that it was inappropriate and they would not participate in any of their church duties as long as they wore them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Riverkilt View Post
    Not sure the denomination you reference but guessing it's one of the Christian ones.

    If I remember correctly their main dude lived unbifurcated.

    If it's a denomination that tells folks what they can wear and not wear....there are other options.

    Have seen many posts of guys going to their church proudly kilted. Even became a thing with the LDS. Have a collection of pics of kilted LDS guys proudly kilted at their church/ward that have posted on X Marks.

    If their main dude happened to come back and be sitting in your church don't think he'd mind if you were kilted.

    Go for it.

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    I'd say it depends on you

    Religious orgs seem to have various positions. I don't assume it would do any harm to ask the leadership of the church. I know from the members I've only had positive remarks when I did it. Not a lot but those that commented were positive. I know the bishop of my ward (Mormon for Congregation) said they were not appropriate for my sons to wear. Other faiths for which I have sung, either as cantor or choir member, have never had a problem with them. Good luck and good wearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzbass View Post
    Religious orgs seem to have various positions. I don't assume it would do any harm to ask the leadership of the church. I know from the members I've only had positive remarks when I did it. Not a lot but those that commented were positive. I know the bishop of my ward (Mormon for Congregation) said they were not appropriate for my sons to wear. Other faiths for which I have sung, either as cantor or choir member, have never had a problem with them. Good luck and good wearing.
    My question was less about official or even unofficial positions. That would make the situation easier. It has more to do with " I can, but should I", a question of general appropriateness.
    Tha mi uabhasach sgith gach latha.
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    I been in the habit for the last several years of wearing a kilt for all the high holy days, under the reasoning that it is appropriate to wear your best. I typically wear the purple heritage of Scotland for Advent, and my Keith tartan for Christmas (mostly green) and then the freedom tartan for Easter since the colors are pastel. I have had only very good response when I explain this is the best I have and I'm trying to coordinate the colors according to the church calendar.
    We just changed churches and I let the pastor know that this was my habit, and was told that they welcome members to show pride in their heritage.
    As other's have said, just wear the clothes; don't make it a look at me event. I sit where I always sit and don't make don't do things for the purpose of getting attention.
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    For other occasions like weddings, I always ask the bride if she is OK with it. Some love it, but I had one tell me an emphatic NO. She wanted people looking at her and I respected her request.
    B.D. Marshall
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    Hi. Retired Anglican / Episcopal / C of E priest here.

    I wear it sometimes. Got some fascinated looks from the rector when I wore my Arctic fox full-head sporran with it on the Feast of St. Andrew, but no comments except admiration from other congregants. The white sporran looks fabulous on my red Sinclair kilt.

    Some individuals in some denominations are still under the under-educated misaprehension that it is akin to cross-dressing. Not someplace I'd want to go anyway.
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilted2000 View Post
    The advice is often given on this site that if you might distract from the person who is supposed to be the center of attention then you should [not wear the kilt].
    Remove religion/church from the context of the conversation and Matt is stating exactly the same advice.

    Matt says: "But frankly, when I am at the event, it is simply not about me."
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