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10th August 08, 11:04 PM
#1
Can this be regarded as a tartan?
It's "almost" imposible to get real tartan here and I'm not ready yet to get some expencive material. So I found 3 different fabrics that look at least as a tartan and selected one of them. It's made in the way the tartan should be (at least what I can say), but has rather small and simple patteren (asymetrichal). Material is 60/40 wool/poly with twill line. The wight is not much (1260g for cloth of 3x1.5m).
Some questuions:
1. can it be used for kilt (and not look bad/wrong)
2. would it be good to treat two patterens as one, while so nerrow, to gain some pleat depth
3. pleating to strip, but on what part of pattern
4. beening so light, could I saw down the pleats (invisibly) down to hem
Thanks for all your help

Last edited by Mipi; 10th August 08 at 11:24 PM.
Reason: Correcting pictures
I like the breeze between my knees
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11th August 08, 12:03 AM
#2
It is a real tartan. It's called Black Stewart, and it is actually a symmetrical tartan. You could pleat it to the white stripe bordered by the red in the centre of the sett. I would think you could use two repeats of the pattern per pleat to give it more depth. As for sewing the edges of the pleats, I wouldn't bother. If there are enough pleats, and enough depth to those pleats, it should hang quite nicely.
[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]
Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
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11th August 08, 12:48 AM
#3
Now when I look at it a bit different it is symetrical, which is relief for me.
Your suggestion on pleating is the same that I had in mind.
Thanks, slohairt!
I like the breeze between my knees
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11th August 08, 08:13 AM
#4
It's a tartan, it's just not woven in the twill pattern.
Yes, 9 cm is a bit small for a kilt tartan, but you can go ahead and make it anyway, right? I'd pleat double setts, too.
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11th August 08, 09:13 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Alan H
It's a tartan, it's just not woven in the twill pattern.
Yes, 9 cm is a bit small for a kilt tartan, but you can go ahead and make it anyway, right? I'd pleat double setts, too.
I agree with Alan, that you should not pleat to every repeat of the sett but every other repeat so that you have deeper pleats. Nice find though.
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11th August 08, 08:10 PM
#6
It looks like twill weave to me.
[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]
Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
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11th August 08, 08:18 PM
#7
Looks to be twill to me as well. It appears to have twill lines anyhow.
Bear in mind I'm about as far from what one could call an expert as you can get.
I have always tempered my killing with respect for the game pursued. I see the animal not only as a target but as a living creature with more freedom than I will ever have. I take that life if I can, with regret as well as joy, and with the sure knowledge that nature's ways of fang and claw or exposure and starvation are a far crueler fate than I bestow. - Fred Bear
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12th August 08, 03:40 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by Alan H
It's a tartan, it's just not woven in the twill pattern.
Yes, 9 cm is a bit small for a kilt tartan, but you can go ahead and make it anyway, right? I'd pleat double setts, too.
Looks like twill to me. It has the diagonal twill lines.
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12th August 08, 05:16 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by slohairt
It is a real tartan. It's called Black Stewart, .
Could that be a Tweedside District variation?
I like the breeze between my knees
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12th August 08, 06:41 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by JakobT
Looks like twill to me. It has the diagonal twill lines.
Unless my memory is faulty (not unlikely!) or the definition of twill has changed, (quite possible) a twill weave is two threads of weft crossing over and under two threads of warp. That is what gives it that distinct diagonal line. So I will second Jakob here. Looks like twill to me too.
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