Help please ancient vs modern

**remr5** · 17th January 11, 03:45 PM

Hello, I'm new to this forum and I'm seeking help. I want to purchase a kilt with the Pennsylvania District Tartan as registered with the S.T.A.

The kilt will be 15 oz from DC Dalgleish. What I have not been able to do so far is compare pics from that mill of ancient vs. modern colors. So the big $5 question is, does anyone have a kilt with fabric from DC Dalgleish with ancient colors? If you can you post or send me some pics?

I have emailed USA kilts and received some pics but they do not specify ancient or modern. I don't want to wear out Rocky with a hundred e-mails as I did not place my order yet.

Thank you

**Hothir Ethelnor** · 17th January 11, 04:58 PM

The pictures on the STA website show the tartan woven in ancient colours but since Dalgliesh is doing a custom run for you you can send your own colour palette for them to match.

I find the palette used in a recent tartan run that I coordinated to be extremely nice.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...06/index5.html

I could send you a swatch of cloth that Dalgliesh could match. You will need to find a suitable sample for the yellow yarns as the Clanranald tartan I had woven does not have yellow.

BTW Ancient colours are light and "pastelly" they are supposed to look faded.

Modern colours are deep and dark with a scarlet red and a bright yellow.

**xman** · 17th January 11, 05:52 PM

I have a swatch of Hunting MacLean from them and feel that their ancient colour palate is very good indeed.
You can see it in the bottom left corner of this picture.

I think you would be pleased to request it of them.

**remr5** · 17th January 11, 06:21 PM

Thank you everyone for your pics and info. It helped a lot.

**Downunder Kilt** · 17th January 11, 06:25 PM

Xman I hope you mean MacLaren on the left side, otherwise I am wearing the wrong tartan

**xman** · 17th January 11, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt

Xman I hope you mean MacLaren on the left side, otherwise I am wearing the wrong tartan

heh,

... oops.

**figheadair** · 18th January 11, 02:55 AM

You should see the Pennsylvania in Wilsons of Bannockburn's (WoB) shades. Oh so very nice. I wove Bill Johnstone a kilt in it. Wonder what happened to that when he died?

**Tobus** · 18th January 11, 05:44 AM

What I don't like about "ancient" colours in general is what happens to red: rather than becoming a lighter shade of red, the hue itself shifts from red to orange.

I'm just guessing here, but I would imagine that this is done on purpose because people probably prefer the red to go to orange rather than pink.

**BoldHighlander** · 18th January 11, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

What I don't like about "ancient" colours in general is what happens to red: rather than becoming a lighter shade of red, the hue itself shifts from red to orange.

Originally Posted by Tobus

I'm just guessing here, but I would imagine that this is done on purpose because people probably prefer the red to go to orange rather than pink.

Funny thing that....I was never a big fan of "ancient" red kilts, because of the reasons cited, yet when I had the choice of MacDonell of Keppoch in "modern" vs "ancient" I chose the ancient colours as (to my eye) it was a better looking colour scheme.
Now I love it....and I've received nothing but compliments (i.e. "what a beautiful tartan") from those I run into while wearing it.

I'd still like to (someday) get a couple of Keppoch kilts made in both the "reproduction" & "WoB" colours though