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29th January 15, 03:00 AM
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Bonnets and badges at Burns dinners.
Having enjoyed the numerous pictures of various Burns Nights gatherings posted here of those outwith these shores, I have noticed that decorations and assorted badges are often worn, as are glengarries. Now, I have absolutely no wish to start up another "Decorations or not" thread, nor do I wish to start up another "wearing hats indoors" thread either! But can I ask a few questions?
Is it usual to wear decorations to a totally civilian themed event? And. Is it usual to wear a glengarry(so many at some events!) whilst indoors at these events? Are Glengarries more popular than a balmoral? I understand traditions outhwith the UK are different, but I am amazed at the difference from Scotland. Perhaps the Scottish blood is starting to thin, out there?
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Last edited by Jock Scot; 29th January 15 at 03:34 AM.
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29th January 15, 04:00 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Are Glengarries more popular than a balmoral?
They do seem to be worn a bit more often, at least at the events I have attended (Maxville, Stone Mountain, Virginia, Alaska).
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29th January 15, 04:44 AM
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In this neck of the woods, pipers own glengarrys, others wear the balmoral, if anything. Neither are worn indoors. Decorations are worn on state and official occasions. A pin, signifying regimental affiliation etc., is often worn on the left lapel.
"All the great things are simple and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honour, duty, mercy, hope." Winston Churchill
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29th January 15, 05:39 AM
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When a person (as I've observed on my side of the pond) earns a bauble to wear for some service performed, they can't wait to show their pride in that particular accomplishment. It also is a way for others that have earned medals, honor badges, etc. to recognize the sacrifice of folks showing off those items.
I am guilty as well of showing off my military medals on special occasions.
I think that hats should only be worn outdoors and believe the social standards have become lax on that issue.
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29th January 15, 05:52 AM
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I have noticed that some wear their decorations to the Burns dinner I usually attend, and others, that I know are prior service and earned decorations, do not. I try to follow the US Marine Corps regs that decorations may be worn with civilian attire on at the holder's discretion on "suitable military or patriotic occasions". Since a Burns dinner doesn't quite fall in that category, I leave them home. I have no problem with those who have earned awards wearing them at their own discretion, however.
As far as headgear goes, I wear a balmoral coming and going, and a kippah during.
Geoff Withnell
"My comrades, they did never yield, for courage knows no bounds."
No longer subject to reveille US Marine.
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29th January 15, 07:23 AM
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I have worn my (US Department of State awarded) decorations exactly once, to a military dinner at which decorations were both expected and requested. The convention in the State Department is to not wear one's civilian decorations to formal events such as the Marine Ball. Military decorations are often worn, by those who've earned them, on such occasions. Marine Balls are emphatically "suitable military or patriotic occasions," as described by Geoff.
If it's cold, I wear a balmoral to and from, but not indoors.
Holcombe
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29th January 15, 08:19 AM
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In Texas, it's usually too hot for such, but the doo-dads are aplenty at the Long's Peak Highland Games in Estes Park, CO. It was good fun.
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29th January 15, 08:30 AM
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On this side of the pond, North of the 49th, hats of any type would not be worn to an indoor event by civilians. Medals also are not displayed at civilian events.
Cheers....
"Good judgement comes from experience, and experience
well, that comes from poor judgement."
A. A. Milne
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29th January 15, 09:10 AM
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No medals worn at our house for Burns and hats are for outdoors. Currently with temps at freezing or below, hats are great outdoors, but I would not wear them indoors, both for the fact I was taught not too as well as it would not fit a dressier occasion.
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29th January 15, 09:34 AM
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My son and I were discussing this very subject at the Burn's supper we attended. There were quite a few gentlemen wearing Glengarries and my son asked me why I wasn't wearing mine. My answer was that 20 years in service had programed into me NOT to wear a hat indoors unless under arms. Also, formal events after 6PM headgear is traditionally not worn. I have no issue with those that choose to wear them, I just don't think I could do it.
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