Irish Young v. Scottish Young

[12stones]

So, I've discovered in my ancestry I've got Young blood in me from Ireland. Now, I know we're all cousins in some way, but does anyone know of the history or connection to Scottish Youngs? I'm basically trying to figure out how accurate it would be to wear the Young tartan... but, I'd also like to know the history behind it if anyone can help.

[Oldhiker]

I am sending you a PM to discuss in detail, but the short answer I have found is that Young or OG is an adopted name. Before surnames became prevalent.

example John McNeil has a son name John also. Original John become John the senior and son become called John the younger. which got shorten to John Young.

I run a Young DNA study which this is becoming evident from the results

http://www.lamont-young.com/

[hospitaller]

hello there cousin

[Oldhiker]

one thing I forgot to mention

we have 144 Young's tested and have 97 bloodlines. 80% of those are Celtic. This is part of my theory that Young is not an old family name but a more recent adoption.

so to answer your question. Yes it is Irish and yes a alot of Scots are Celts who came from Ireland about 800 - 1000 AD

[hospitaller]

Well, the Young Clan has long been a sept of the Douglas Clan, the best and largest pre-Culloden tartan in existence is that of Christina Young and one of the tutors to King James himself, so I guess, at least in my book, the Youngs are Scottish enough.

www.clanyoung.org for more info.

[sirdaniel1975]

I have several questions which actually could help you in your efforts.

1. When did your Young ancestors migrate from Ireland to North America?

2. What part of Ireland did they come from?

3. In this record of your Young ancestors, what was their parish (if it is mentioned)?

4. What was the religion of this parish (if the parish is mentioned) ?

5. When they came to North America, where did they go (ex. Canada or what colony/state in the USA)?

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Some of the potential answers could point towards being what is known as Scots-Irish/Ulster Scots. The older term is Scotch-Irish, which many frown upon today. If they are Scots-Irish, they'll probably come from the county of Ulster, Ireland. (If the city is mentioned, find out what the county is for the city.) This will most likely mean your Young ancestors were "part of the Highland Clearances."

Now, take in mind what I just said is a very general and a common take on many genealogical mysteries. You'll want to take every possibility in to account. No matter how improbable, although most truth ends up being the most probable or one of the most probable.

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I've met a lot of people that really believe their "blah blah blah" ancestor to be Irish, just because the ship record says: Ireland - USA. If they were to do more genealogy, say 1 - 3 generations further, the result might be different. Always keep an open mind when doing research, triple check records from multiple sources, cross reference as much as possible.

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I'm not making anti Irish remarks here, I have quite a bit Irish ancestry myself. Kelly's and McLuskie's as a matter of fact. Very proud of it I am!

[Oldhiker]

Well, the Young Clan has long been a sept of the Douglas Clan, the best and largest pre-Culloden tartan in existence is that of Christina Young and one of the tutors to King James himself, so I guess, at least in my book, the Youngs are Scottish enough.

www.clanyoung.org for more info.

Hospitailer, FYI I am orginally from Indiana

The Young name is widespread in both Ireland and Scotland. When you speak in terms of ancestry you need to point out what time period. If you go back far enough the Celts were in Europe. The migration then follows to Ireland and then Scotland.

So I might say once upon a time my family was Basque.

I like the colors of that Christina tartan.

[Macman]

I agree with sirdaniel1975. Your probably going to want to do some research. For some Youngs that I know of the trail goes back to Ulster, then back to Scotland.