X Marks the Scot - An on-line community of kilt wearers.

   X Marks Partners - (Go to the Partners Dedicated Forums )
USA Kilts website Celtic Croft website Celtic Corner website Houston Kiltmakers

User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 24

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Join Date
    9th January 06
    Posts
    796
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Question Practice chanter

    I know there are bagpipe forums, but nothing beats X Marks for speedy replies

    I have just started out on the prcatice chanter, and with no previous experience of playing any instrument, I am quite happy with getting through Amazing Grace after a couple of weeks.
    But, I can't get through more than two or three phrases before my lips pack it in. I have plenty of air, but how can I build up stamina for my lips?

    Thanks

  2. #2
    Join Date
    30th March 05
    Location
    Kentucky
    Posts
    1,543
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would assume it's like any other wind instrument...

    ...practice practice practice!

  3. #3
    Join Date
    5th September 05
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    5,144
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'm not sure what you mean by "stamina for my lips"...I can tell you that, when playing the transverse flute, I have found myself "clenching" and becoming prematurely tired and achy in the face muscles as well as the fingers...relaxing and concentrating on tone is the only way that I can relieve this problem. I currently have a really crappy chanter (it was a misguided gift...I'll probably buy a Dunbar chanter sometime soon) and it isn't worth the time it takes to pick it up and blow in it...I'm sure that you have a decent one and that the instrument isn't the problem.

    A while back I learned about something called "The Alexander Technique" which is a sort of lining up, relaxing and being conscious of your posturer in any activity that you engage in...I'm by no means an expert in this technique but just reading some of the basics has helped me to find ways to avoid unnecessary stress and discomfort while doing all sorts of things. Our Australlian and NZ members might know more about Alexander as he was a big noise down under and was, I believe, in politics down there.

    Anyway, I hope that the solution to your discomfort is something as simple as being aware of it and consciously trying to relax. I've had friends that are guitarists that have had their chiropractors analyze the way that they play and adjust things like arm position and strap length and they have all found that it has helped relieve stress considerably.

    Mellow out, man....BE the chanter.....grooovy!

    Best

    AA

  4. #4
    Join Date
    13th March 05
    Location
    Orange County, CA., U.S.A.
    Posts
    1,552
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Like Chasem said, Practice, practice, practice. Your lips aren't used to having to grip something, so the muscles in your embouchure are having to develope from scratch - think of it like working out, or running; you can only do so much at first, but with regular practice, you get better.

    I play the concert flute. I'm getting back into it after a twenty year hiatus (I used to be very good), and I'm suffering from the same thing; after so long, my lips just lose it, and I can't focus the air for that upper range anymore.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    13th March 05
    Location
    Victoria, British Columbia, Canada (OCONCAN)
    Posts
    3,809
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Porrick, I've been on the practice chanter for about a year, and I have found the same thing as you. I've just gotten real pipes, and it's the same issue. For me, the lips are the limiting factor. I practice for as long as I can, and by the end I'm blowing more air out the sides than down the chanter/blowpipe. All I can say from my limited experience is that if you just keep at it, gradually your embouchure gets stronger and stronger. I sometimes approach it like weight training: practice until your lips fail, take a 30 or 60 second break, then go at it again; practice, fail, then break, etc. Good luck!
    "Touch not the cat bot a glove."

  6. #6
    highlander_Daz's Avatar
    highlander_Daz is offline Oops, it seems this member needs to update their email address
    Join Date
    9th February 05
    Location
    Inverness Scotland
    Posts
    1,106
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    As far as the PC goes Id reccomend that you make it a priority to practice your scale once up and down and rest a second, listen for passing notes
    this will start to make your lips stronger, then practice G Grace note befor your melody note, practice the whole scale with G grace note then D then E resting in between, each run. Forget AG, practice the scale, grace notes and doublings from every melody note, until you crack this you wont progress, and youll be that busy concentrationg you wont notice your lips!! make sure you have a couple of seconds break before you perform each excercise. PM me if you need more advice

  7. #7
    Join Date
    9th January 06
    Posts
    796
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by highlander_Daz
    As far as the PC goes Id reccomend that you make it a priority to practice your scale once up and down and rest a second, listen for passing notes
    this will start to make your lips stronger, then practice G Grace note befor your melody note, practice the whole scale with G grace note then D then E resting in between, each run. Forget AG, practice the scale, grace notes and doublings from every melody note, until you crack this you wont progress, and youll be that busy concentrationg you wont notice your lips!! make sure you have a couple of seconds break before you perform each excercise. PM me if you need more advice
    Good advice is always appreciated I do my best practicing the scale and grace notes etc, but I also have a dvd (haven't got it here, but it is the one with "American Piper" as a bonus track. Invermark or something? I'll check), and AG is lesson number 7 - as far as I've got at present.

    Yupp, practice, practice, practice - but it is nice to work on a tune to break the potential monotony

  8. #8
    Join Date
    21st February 04
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    1,088
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Iolaus
    I play the concert flute. I'm getting back into it after a twenty year hiatus (I used to be very good), and I'm suffering from the same thing; after so long, my lips just lose it, and I can't focus the air for that upper range anymore.
    After 4 years, I'd hate to think what I'd look like if I picked up my trombone again!

    When I first started with my practice chanter it took a week before I figured out the right air amount to not make it sound like a trombone with a bucket mute. My biggest problem is that my little fingers don't bend out far enough to cover the holes, so I have trouble with that. I need to start practicing again, it's been a while.
    An uair a théid an gobhainn air bhathal 'se is feàrr a bhi réidh ris.
    (When the smith gets wildly excited, 'tis best to agree with him.)

    Kiltio Ergo Sum.
    I Kilt, therefore I am. -McClef

  9. #9
    Join Date
    10th November 04
    Location
    Sunny Portland, OR
    Posts
    818
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Nick
    My biggest problem is that my little fingers don't bend out far enough to cover the holes, so I have trouble with that. I need to start practicing again, it's been a while.
    Hmmmm.... Bending your fingers on the PC? I was taught to keep my fingers straight, flat, and to raise them from the hand.....

  10. #10
    Kilted KT is offline Membership Revoked for repeated rule violations.
    Join Date
    4th March 06
    Location
    A long time ago in a kilt far, far away
    Posts
    3,129
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by porrick
    I know there are bagpipe forums, but nothing beats X Marks for speedy replies

    I have just started out on the prcatice chanter, and with no previous experience of playing any instrument, I am quite happy with getting through Amazing Grace after a couple of weeks.
    But, I can't get through more than two or three phrases before my lips pack it in. I have plenty of air, but how can I build up stamina for my lips?

    Thanks

    I've a practice chanter myself, but nothing to show me how to play it. What are you using to learn to play, a book, a DVD, a mail-away scot tutor?

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.0