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28th February 08, 09:46 AM
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Southwest Airlines and Kilts?
I have yet to fly in my kilt, but I wonder if this would happen to us kilted folks.
First, a 23-year-old waitress was booted off a Southwest Airlines flight. Now, two 18-year-olds claim they were discriminated against for being too pretty. And like clockwork, "too pretty to fly" took off.
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28th February 08, 09:58 AM
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I flew on SWA a while back and wore my kilt. I've also flown back and forth to America on KLM, NWA, Continental and Delta and I had absolutely no issues with any flight ever. The staff were always polite and friendly. My kilt only ever brought compliments.
I've never heard about any of these incidents. I might have to have a look for them.
(Edited to add.)
Honestly, I think the waitress shouldn't have got any trouble at all.
As for the two 18 year old girls... Hmm. I made a point of reading 13, (count 'em, thirteen!) different articles about the incident and with each one I felt more and more like being pretty had little or nothing to do with it.
If someone were giving me unfair treatment on a flight I certainly wouldn't assume it was because they were jealous about me being young or handsome.
Last edited by Arlen; 28th February 08 at 10:06 AM.
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29th February 08, 06:54 AM
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 Originally Posted by Arlen
I flew on SWA a while back and wore my kilt. I've also flown back and forth to America on KLM, NWA, Continental and Delta and I had absolutely no issues with any flight ever. The staff were always polite and friendly. My kilt only ever brought compliments.
I've never heard about any of these incidents. I might have to have a look for them.
(Edited to add.)
Honestly, I think the waitress shouldn't have got any trouble at all.
As for the two 18 year old girls... Hmm. I made a point of reading 13, (count 'em, thirteen!) different articles about the incident and with each one I felt more and more like being pretty had little or nothing to do with it.
If someone were giving me unfair treatment on a flight I certainly wouldn't assume it was because they were jealous about me being young or handsome.
Hmm, I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with pretty and something to do with talking.....
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29th February 08, 08:52 AM
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send Retro Red a PM or invite him to this thread. I believe he flies in his kilt all the time and could probably offer some advice.
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28th February 08, 11:59 AM
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I fly SWA 4-5 trips each year and when I was dating my wife (Reno to Boulder Creek CA.) I flew every month. I have never had a problem except with TSA. A friend of mine is one of the supervisors and he always had me searched, so the people would understand how to search a guy in an unbifurcated garment ;). That aside, as long as you are not making a fuss, things should go well.
aka Scott Hudson, Mason,Minister, Eagle Scout, Vet, Teacher, Student, Piper, and Burner
Liberty starts with absolute rights over your own Body, Mind, Actions, and Earnings.
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29th February 08, 05:13 PM
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 Originally Posted by masonpiper
I fly SWA 4-5 trips each year and when I was dating my wife (Reno to Boulder Creek CA.) I flew every month. I have never had a problem except with TSA. A friend of mine is one of the supervisors and he always had me searched, so the people would understand how to search a guy in an unbifurcated garment ;). That aside, as long as you are not making a fuss, things should go well.
Same here. Every time I go through the airport I am called aside for secondary inspection simply because they have only been taught theory of how to search a guy in a kilt and they need the practice.
There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
Those that understand binary, and those that don't.
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1st March 08, 07:54 PM
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 Originally Posted by emolas
Same here. Every time I go through the airport I am called aside for secondary inspection simply because they have only been taught theory of how to search a guy in a kilt and they need the practice.
I used to work for TSA as a screener and you've hit this pretty much dead on.
Here's the deal. All screeners are taught how to screen someone in a Unbifurcated Garment.
However.
Given the same-sex rules for screening, it's pretty rare for a man to actually screen someone in a UG. I never did. However, the idea creeps out a lot of male screeners.
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28th February 08, 06:35 PM
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Happens to me all the time! I now have to book flights under one of my many assumed names, and then remember to take the proper picture ID, to match the make-up.
It's such a pain to be one of the beautiful people...
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29th February 08, 06:15 AM
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 Originally Posted by James MacMillan
It's such a pain to be one of the beautiful people... 
I feel your pain James. We have such a burden to bear.
We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb
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1st March 08, 01:26 PM
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 Originally Posted by James MacMillan
Happens to me all the time! I now have to book flights under one of my many assumed names, and then remember to take the proper picture ID, to match the make-up.
It's such a pain to be one of the beautiful people... 
 Originally Posted by davedove
I feel your pain James. We have such a burden to bear. 
Really! I've had no problems.
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