World Peace tartan

[bonnie heather]

Does anyone know what the situation is with the World Peace tartan? It's very nice and the symbolism is important. A lady asked me to make a kilt for her in this tartan but it seems to be restricted and not available.
On the other hand, I see that Heritage of Scotland is offering many items in the World Peace tartan, including kilts. Even if I can't obtain the tartan myself, I'd like to be able to recommend Heritage of Scotland to her. She asked if they have a good reputation. Yes? Have any XMarkers been able to get a World Peace kilt and what was your experience?

[plaid preacher]

Hi Bonnie,
Heritage of Scotland is part of the Gold Bros. Empire, I understand; and there has been much said about them already on this site. I have ordered some bibs and bobs from them, however, and have had good experience. When I have had the return something, it has gone well, and they have been helpful to me. This is my experience only. I have not ordered a quality kilt from them, however, and so cannot comment on that.

[Chas]

Hi Bonnie,
Heritage of Scotland is part of the Gold Bros. Empire, I understand; and there has been much said about them already on this site. I have ordered some bibs and bobs from them, however, and have had good experience. When I have had the return something, it has gone well, and they have been helpful to me. This is my experience only. I have not ordered a quality kilt from them, however, and so cannot comment on that.

I cannot speak for the World Peace tartan, but it looks to be a money making venture by Victor Spence.

On the other hand, I am a returning customer of Heritage of Scotland and have had value for money on every occasion.

[Mikilt]

A little off topic...

If it is indeed restricted, doesn't it beg the question of why would a World Peace tartan be restricted? Are only certain people permitted to express their support and desire for world peace by wearing this tartan? Seems to me that something that is supposed to stand for world peace ought to be available to all.

[bonnie heather]

A little off topic...

If it is indeed restricted, doesn't it beg the question of why would a World Peace tartan be restricted? Are only certain people permitted to express their support and desire for world peace by wearing this tartan? Seems to me that something that is supposed to stand for world peace ought to be available to all.

I couldn't agree with you more!!

[Tartan Tess]

MacMillians son....if that bothers you, think of the people who just "Buy" the rights to certain tartans. And then have compleat control.....

[MacMillans son]

Thanks EB, it seems I should have done more research than just reading this thread. It now makes sense that it is licensed so that the proceeds can be accounted for and funneled to the intended causes. My apologies for short cutting my research, before posting I should asked a little more and assumed a little less.

Neither course would cause me bother Tess. Both are the benefit of living in a free market, make it and keep it, or make it and give it away neither is right, wrong, or better than the other in my opinion.

[Highlander31]

I cannot speak for the World Peace tartan, but it looks to be a money making venture by Victor Spence.....

I agree with you Chas. Here's what the restrictions state:

The Scottish Register of Tartans

Restrictions: Yes. All rights reserved by designer. Licenses for use for a wide range of items are available.
Weaving only permitted under license from the design owner.
All rights reserved by designer. Licenses for use for a wide range of items are available.

[TheOfficialBren]

I'm not an attorney but I do have some experience in a similar area...music publishing. For all intents and purposes the basic principles are the same (within the scope and context of this discussion):

Intellectual property is intellectual property regardless of the title, brand, or trade name.

I'm a published musician and the owner of a number of registered, copyrighted, and trademarked intellectual properties. I work my tail off. I can say that if I were to see my hard work being used (profited from, sold, licensed, rented, distributed, reproduced, replicated, copied, transmitted, broadcast, placed, or otherwise exhibited or monetised) without my consent and the appropriate royalties paid to me then I would be more than miffed...the freaking (legal) fury gets unleashed!!!



Please consider all of that. Most folks will never own (or maybe more accurately, register) intellectual property, therefore they often have a difficult time empathising with the intellectual property owner and approach this issue solely from a consumer's mindset (a mistake, by the way). You wouldn't believe how much this happens (even in the industry)!

Just because a property isn't a house or car or a business does not mean that those folks aren't entitled to their rights. Hell, anyone can work to buy a car or a house or start a business. Most folks simply are not clever enough to write a book, compose a piece of music, invent something, sculpt a masterpiece, or paint a beautiful painting. Not all intellectual properties are fine arts, I know, but they make for a good illustration (pardon the pun).

I apologise if my post was harsh but this is a matter (intellectual property rights, not tartan design) near-and-dear to my heart. Please don't be so hard on them.

Maybe, instead, ask yourself the following questions:
Where is YOUR personal tartan? What are YOUR intellectual properties? Would you want someone to use (profit from) one of your posessions (properties) without your consent?

I understand that a kilt made for ones own enjoyment is one thing...but a retailer(s) will enter the chain eventually (weaver, kiltmaker, et al). Just my tuppence...no...this one's worth a nickel...I invested in my education for that one.

[plaid preacher]

Okay, Bonnie. I just went to the HOS website and it seems you can order the fabric on the website... thus you could buy the tartan and then sew the kilt. Just a thought.