Traditonal vs. Historical

[CMcG]

Where I like this picture would be dressed up for a wedding. Members of the Wedding Party and Parents are the only ones who need to dress up more. As an example I wore a shortsleeve button down and jeans to a wedding this month. I was the least dressed of my family (in-laws) but I was better dressed than everyone under the age of 60. That I could wear exactly what I wear to work every day to a wedding is typical and an American thing, I think. I'm going to a wedding in Germany in September and I'll be wearing a suit.

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I've only been to one wedding in the US, but the wedding party wore black tie, while guests were at least wearing a suit and tie. I guess it depends on the family, social group, location, and type of wedding... All the weddings I've been to in Canada, people tend to dress up.

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The fact that we don't spend time discussing casual outfits and many posts are either "do whatever" or "I don't care its not for me", is a detriment. We should spend time discussing them and showing them off. Over all there seems to be a reluctance to show the photos because those are the responces. We need more examples and discussion on the TKSW to keep newer members like me around. That ties to the Tradition vs Historical aspect of the thread because both have a hightened focus here, this is useful, when the rest is ignored we loose out.

Sounds like you want to discuss neither tradition, nor history, but rather contemporary or modern style. If that is your interest, then by all means you should lead the charge! Your best bet is to start threads in the Contemporary sub-forum, though General Kilt Talk could also suit that type of discussion if you state in the original post that your intention is not traditional.

[creagdhubh]

It also makes clear in the title that "there are no rules or kilt kops". If you ever get hassled by one of us THCD guys you can immediately reply (with Cole Porter sassiness) "Anything Goes!"...

Hahahaha! Quite!

[MacLowlife]

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(executive summary)

Let me get this straight. Somewhere in the last 190 or so posts we went from arguing over WHAT IS traditional to WHERE WE SHOULD ARGUE over what is traditional, with a side order of what is appropriate. Please forgive my coeur mechant, but I think we might consider this topic exhausted. I know I am. Wedding guests range from naked to morning dress. Kilt wearers must wear a kilt to be so designated. I recall an ad that featured a couple of guys who were wearing just kilts and nothing else. We have all seen people who look to have been dressed by a very succesful kilt salesman working on commission. Most of us have seen someone whose dress we would like to copy and someone who inspires in us the attitude of an old gun dog when she spots a rambunctious puppy. Given half an opportunity, we can all discuss these experiences. And somewhere out in cyber space, there are at least two people- a wise one who agrees and a fool who doesn't.

I think that just about covers it.

ooops, and there were pictures.

[BCAC]

I like the TKSW. It covers what I was thinking and is short enough to be managable. We don't want to turn in the an Alphabet Soup area .

I don't think we need to sugar coat everything either, there is however a level of polite that can be used even when expressing disgust. For example, "Hopper, I find your style of dress to be slobbish and somewhat disturbing. I suggest hose and shoes rather than the boots to improve the look." As opposed to "Hopper, you need to get rid of the boots because you shouldn't wear them with a kilt."

(Of course this is predicated on the idea that I'm not wearing "cowboy boots" and looking like a teenage girl in Texas. In which case "Lose the boots you look like a girl." would be perfectly acceptable.)

The first isn't sugar coated but I wouldn't call it rude. The second I would call rude. Just my thoughts on that part.

You have to remember, also, that this is the internet. It is very difficult to convey meanings, humour, satire, and such like things.

You have to remember also that this is an international forum so there can be some inter-national misunderstandings.

You should also practice what you preach and not get upset so easily when you think someone is being arrogant, thereby becoming arrogant yourself.

[creagdhubh]

You have to remember, also, that this is the internet. It is very difficult to convey meanings, humour, satire, and such like things.

You have to remember also that this is an international forum so there can be some inter-national misunderstandings.

You should also practice what you preach and not get upset so easily when you think someone is being arrogant, thereby becoming arrogant yourself.

Very well said.

[adempsey10]

I like the TKSW. It covers what I was thinking and is short enough to be managable. We don't want to turn in the an Alphabet Soup area .

I don't think we need to sugar coat everything either, there is however a level of polite that can be used even when expressing disgust. For example, "Hopper, I find your style of dress to be slobbish and somewhat disturbing. I suggest hose and shoes rather than the boots to improve the look." As opposed to "Hopper, you need to get rid of the boots because you shouldn't wear them with a kilt."

(Of course this is predicated on the idea that I'm not wearing "cowboy boots" and looking like a teenage girl in Texas. In which case "Lose the boots you look like a girl." would be perfectly acceptable.)

The first isn't sugar coated but I wouldn't call it rude. The second I would call rude. Just my thoughts on that part.

I'd be a little offended if someone called my attire 'slobbish' and 'disturbing'.

This is what I think of when someone says 'slobbish' and 'disturbing':



I've seen some uber casual and relaxed looking outfits on here, but nothing I would declare slobbish and disturbing...

[Hopper250]

You should also practice what you preach and not get upset so easily when you think someone is being arrogant, thereby becoming arrogant yourself.

I try not to. It make just be how I type. Despite my issues with spelling and grammar I typically write in a very formal manner. Since you are correct that since this is the internet, not face to face, it can cause issues in how we understand each other. Cultural differances do add another aspect to the chances of misunderstandings.

I have not been a forum user for a few years now and am just getting back into it, so perhaps attempts as self deprication and use of smilies are not where or what they should be.

Over all though I think this has been a very productive thread for me. Several good ideas and suggestions came out of it.

[TheOfficialBren]

I'd be a little offended if someone called my attire 'slobbish' and 'disturbing'.

This is what I think of when someone says 'slobbish' and 'disturbing':



I've seen some uber casual and relaxed looking outfits on here, but nothing I would declare slobbish and disturbing...

Goodness gracious!! Plus one, AD10!! Plus one, indeed!!

[xman]

Can we just say this outfit never happened?

[CMcG]

Can we just say this outfit never happened?

Sorry, X! I know you don't like what you were wearing that night, but I still think you looked pretty sharp