tartan register...

[Jimmy Carbomb]

What tartan to wear? Whose tartan is it? What's the significance?

It's all historical and cultural. The Court at Lyon has already compiled the facts, and anyone can publish it. There doesn't need to be a final authority. It's in the history books.

This all comes down to one simple notion. R-E-S-P-E-C-T. We've talked at length about the traditions and culture. We've talked about "know your tartan". Sure... you can wear whatever you want. Some just choose to take the kilt beyond the point of it being a garment, and adhere some traditional heritage behind the thing. No "right" or "wrong"... rather an acceptance or rejection of the heritage.

Apparently, the Scots want to ensure that those who desire to KEEP the heritage and traditions have a source of information. With all the "wear what you want" talk going around, is it any wonder that they want to get this done? As a Celt, I applaude them for the initiative and will do whatever I can to support them.

[macwilkin]

Weel said, Jimmy! (sounds a bit Glesca, eh?)

Apparently, the Scots want to ensure that those who desire to KEEP the heritage and traditions have a source of information. With all the "wear what you want" talk going around, is it any wonder that they want to get this done? As a Celt, I applaude them for the initiative and will do whatever I can to support them.

As a member of the Scottish Tartans Authority, so will I!

Why shouldn't the Scots be the keepers of their traditions? For years, Scottish culture was found in the diaspora, in exile in places around the world -- as a descendant of some of those Scots who left their home, I will do all I can to see that Scottish culture "returns" to the homeland and is protected.

Cheers Aye,

T.

[Casey]

The saying, "Closing the barn door after the horse gets out", comes to mind here.

Sorry, too late. I'm a third generation Canadian who wears a kilt.

Casey

[macwilkin]

Casey,

That's exactly my point: for years, Scottish culture was not found in Scotland, but in Canada, South Africa, Australia, etc. -- where ever Scots immigrated to to escape rebellions, religious persecution, economic hardships, whatever -- the "children" became the custodians of the customs across the ocean, while "in dreams we behold the Hebrides", to paraphrase the Canadian Boat Song.

The barn door swings both ways in this instance. Everyone benefits who want to know more about their heritage.

T.

[phil h]

I'm all for edjumikation, some of us need it,there's three registers now, why make another?
and not interested in money?
so why? according to the guys at TFCK, do they require you to pay 120 pounds to register a tartan, I can get a kilt made from TFCK for130pounds.
120 pounds =$225 US or $275 CDN

[macwilkin]

so why? according to the guys at TFCK, do they require you to pay 120 pounds to register a tartan, I can get a kilt made from TFCK for130pounds.
120 pounds =$225 US or $275 CDN

Patents, copyrights, etc. all cost as well -- why bother with them? Because it protects the artist, inventor, etc. from people ripping off their blood, sweat and tears. Just look at the whole Napster thing a while ago. Or all of the inventors, song writers, etc. who died poor because they didn't have a patent on their invention. That may be overdramatising it a wee bit! :mrgreen:

And sometime fees are necessary for processing, labour, etc. I don't like them anymore than anyone else, but they're a fact of life anymore.

Remember they are not requiring everyone who wears a particular tartan to register, only those who design a tartan, and it's voluntary to do so. Again, see the last paragraph of Matt's article. I imagine they'll be a lot of "grandfathering in" of old tartans as well, and combining the three lists.

T.

[Casey]

Todd,

I agree that one could interpret this a being beneficial. However, I smell a rat.

Industry created the registered tartan and I am of the opinion that this is yet another industry grab. And, unfortunately, it will be at the expense of the taxpayers and the consumer(twice for this poor sole).

Great discussion, eh! (Canadian emphasis )

Casey

[macwilkin]

Casey,

Yes, it is a good discussion. However, I'm going to wait and see what happens now. Knowing government, action on this may take a long, long time. Lord knows it took us forever to get anything done in my branch! :mrgreen:

Cheers, eh! :mrgreen:

T.

[phil h]

so why? according to the guys at TFCK, do they require you to pay 120 pounds to register a tartan, I can get a kilt made from TFCK for130pounds.
120 pounds =$225 US or $275 CDN

Patents, copyrights, etc. all cost as well -- why bother with them? Because it protects the artist, inventor, etc. from people ripping off their blood, sweat and tears. Just look at the whole Napster thing a while ago. Or all of the inventors, song writers, etc. who died poor because they didn't have a patent on their invention. That may be overdramatising it a wee bit! :mrgreen:



T.

"overdramatising "?like I did with the comicbook comment, that's ok
but who we protectin'? yep this is the phil h tartan, we got it on our books now, that'll be 120 quid. if I design it. TFCK weaves it, wot the hell do they want 120 quid for?
are the people who own the rights or design a tartan gunna want royaltys next?

[Casey]

I have been contemplating using the interactive tartan weaver:

http://www.house-of-tartan.scotland....ver/index.html

How would this affect such a project? Interesting thought, eh?

Casey