Space Warship Wars!-> Who would win?

[davedove]

I'm still trying to absorb the idea that "Sylar" (Zachary Quinto) is going to be "Spock" in the next ST flick.

Well, if he can't establish the mind meld in the usual way, he can just slice you open and try again.

Against the Kirk Factor it doesn't matter how much advanced technology you have. It won't help if you have superior numbers. He may get a little mussed up (small drip of blood on side of mouth, smudge of dirt on nose, shirt sleeve seam ripped, and hair tossled)

Or shirt completely torn off.


Other than ships, what about ground forces. After all, if you destroy the planet, you can't use it yourself. I was most impressed with the ewoks and their triumph over superior technology. There's nothing quite like the home ground advantage.

[escherblacksmith]

Modern writers think too small, I am going to have to agree with some of the initial posters,

E.E. Doc Smith's inventions beat all.

I'll take the Skylark of Valeron and 6th order projections against anyone . . . except maybe the Lensmen and the Sunbeam, Negaspheres, Nth space planets . . .

I should add that I also am a big fan of the Eagle 5.

[GreenDragon]

is Han Solo flying the Millenium Falcon? if so, Falcon wins. end of story. dont care who the opponent was.

[Mr. MacDougall]

Franz Joseph's old designs from the 70s which gained technical canonocity when they appeared on readouts on the bridge of the Enterprise in "The Wrath of Kahn."

Not to mention the fact that the future Enterprise in All Good Things was based on the Federation class dreadnaught.

[Nick]

Other than ships, what about ground forces. After all, if you destroy the planet, you can't use it yourself. I was most impressed with the ewoks and their triumph over superior technology. There's nothing quite like the home ground advantage.

That's one area that Star Trek was always weak on. There seemed to be more concentration of ground capability in the closing seasons of DS9, but other than that they always focused on the space part. I think of it more as something left out because it wasn't important than as something the Federation didn't have, though I also think Starfleet's main strength has always been and will always be their ships.

The Klingons and Romulans we know have good ground troops, and on the Star Wars end of it the Empire obviously had ground troops.

[Colin]

Ok, but Unitron would beat them all!

[Nick]

Until a whiny hotrod with a plot device...I mean Matrix of Leadership shows up.

I love The Transformers, too, but I have to admit, there are a lot of gaping plot holes.

Just gotta let it ride...

[Colin]

Until a whiny hotrod with a plot device...I mean Matrix of Leadership shows up.

I love The Transformers, too, but I have to admit, there are a lot of gaping plot holes.

Just gotta let it ride...

I had forgotten almost everything about that movie until my 6 year old rented it last month before we went and saw the new version. Plot holes is an understatement, but it's a cartoon.

[Nick]

So how about this one: Unicron V. Death Star.

The Death Star has the Giant Honkin' Unidirectional Space Gun (tm)(r)(c)(etc.), but Unicron eats planets for breakfast. And lunch. And afternoon tea. And dinner. And if he gets hungry around midnight he eats a planet.

A size comparison would be meaningless, becase size shift around more in the Transformers than the size of the USS Defiant. And there seems to be some debate over the exact size of the various Death Stars.

I think if Unicron got within range he'd make a snack out of the Death Star. But if the Death Star was facing the right direction and they got off a couple good shots, they might just destroy Unicron. Remove even the toughest stain. Satisfaction garanteed. Or your money back.

Cheers,
Nick

[Archangel]

That's one area that Star Trek was always weak on. There seemed to be more concentration of ground capability in the closing seasons of DS9, but other than that they always focused on the space part. I think of it more as something left out because it wasn't important than as something the Federation didn't have, though I also think Starfleet's main strength has always been and will always be their ships.

The Klingons and Romulans we know have good ground troops, and on the Star Wars end of it the Empire obviously had ground troops.

Keep in mind the strategic point that MacArthur, Mao, and Guevara agree on. It may not politically correct right now, but ground troops are unnecessary if all access points are controlled. Any fixed location has to be held. Avoid fixed locations. Keep your forces mobile. Only when the enemy is completely down, then go in. Otherwise, they become fodder because there is nearly always a home advantage.
So, also keep in mind whether your forces are an invading force (attacking Ewoks), or a rescue force (as in supporting Ewoks).