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22nd December 07, 05:03 PM
#31
Jeez, and here I was thinking it was Brigad**n.
Convener, Georgia Chapter, House of Gordon (Boss H.O.G.)
Where 4 Scotsmen gather there'll usually be a fifth.
7/5 of the world's population have a difficult time with fractions.
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22nd December 07, 05:35 PM
#32
haha, I know the superstition about MacB, but I couldn't tell if he was maybe referring to Brigadoon because of the desire to actually have the kilts right .
So, since kilts will be worn in this production, let's move from historical accuracy to how to accurately wear a modern kilt.
If you look at the Kilt DO's and DONT's, I think you will have a good education in how to wear the kilt. And it's much more fun than most "research".
I think some of the accessories might be pricier than a cheaper kilt like those mentioned already. Anyone have ideas on good ways to replicate the look of key accessories from stage (we don't want them to end up in our Kilt DONT section after all!) without replicating the cost?
Good luck! And maybe some new people will get hooked on kilts!
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22nd December 07, 06:36 PM
#33
For sporrans they could be made out of heavy canvas, dyed brown and black. They could also use fake fur. A wooden button for closure. It's not how it looks close up but how it looks in the first row.
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22nd December 07, 07:15 PM
#34
One thing you have yet to mention, Kaeden, is when your version of...the Scottish Play is being set. The wonderful thing about Shakespeare's plays is that one can set them virtually any time and any place.
Shakespeare Santa Cruz has done...
Hamlet in Kennedy Era White house
Titus Andronicus in a savage "Road Warrior" like future
Mac...The Scottish Play in Feudal Japan (Note to self put on "Throne of Blood" on Netflix queue)
Kilts might be very appropriate, the question remains...
...what kind?
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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22nd December 07, 08:36 PM
#35
 Originally Posted by Panache
One thing you have yet to mention, Kaeden, is when your version of...the Scottish Play is being set. The wonderful thing about Shakespeare's plays is that one can set them virtually any time and any place.
Shakespeare Santa Cruz has done...
Hamlet in Kennedy Era White house
Titus Andronicus in a savage "Road Warrior" like future
Mac...The Scottish Play in Feudal Japan (Note to self put on "Throne of Blood" on Netflix queue)
Kilts might be very appropriate, the question remains...
...what kind?
Cheers
Jamie
But the best version, INMHO, is Orson Welles' 1948 film version.
Jamie: according to my dad, you only need to use "the Scottish play" inside of a theatre.
T.
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22nd December 07, 09:21 PM
#36
Way back in time when the earth was flat I had the opportunity to do costume work in a small teaching theatre. For quick kilts we found some cheap bolts of plaid (not tartan) heavy flannel. ripped them to appropriate length, then folded to "sett" some pleats, pressed and machine stitched the whole mess in position at the waist and a quarter of the way down. Velcro closure to make them very adjustable. Various old brooches were used as kilt pins (for the weight). Wide belts with tacked on tin wrap over the buckles. cinched about two inches down from the top of the "kilt". some jack chain through two punch holes in the belt hold "sporrans" (Cheap fanny packs withe the regular strap cut off and a piece of black canvas stitched or glued to the front in sporran shape. hung a couple of tassels on with hot melt glue. Did fine for the show, the lighting kept the details hard to observe. Several of the student "actor-extras" liked the kilts so much they wore them on campus.
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22nd December 07, 09:44 PM
#37
Also welcome to the rabble.
Along with the kilt, for the costume we did the Jacobian shirts by using long sleaved T-shirts ripped open a bout eight inches down, folded inside and stitched, the paper punched holes with brown shoe laces through. For the hose we used white over the calf gym socks with the flashes as pieces of plaid fabric pinned to the outside. cheap boat shoes painted high gloss black, with black insulated stranded wire as laces onto the calf. for the sqian dubh, we used 3/4" dowel painted black and cut off about ten inches, and shoved inside the sock with 4" showing. The audience thought it looked pretty authentic. For our warriors we used the same plaid as the kilt for a plaid fly 16 " wide and long enough to go from the left side of the apron to over the right shoulder and hang about halfway down the rear of the kilt. pinned down at the front and held to the shirt with a false epaulet and allowed to swing in the rear.
i hope this helps with the costume part. Once you wear the kilt, you will be hooked on its comfort.
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23rd December 07, 09:33 AM
#38
 Originally Posted by Kaeden
Yes, we're doing Macbeth, and I realize that kilts were not the fashion of his time, but our Director wants kilts for some reason. 
Well, I guess you could pull a Mel Gibson and put them in anyway.
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23rd December 07, 09:40 AM
#39
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
But the best version, INMHO, is Orson Welles' 1948 film version.
Jamie: according to my dad, you only need to use "the Scottish play" inside of a theatre.
T.
I know but it's such a fun superstition that I thought I'd take it outside for a bit! 
One to avoid is the Polanski version, though there are some pretty amusing things in it:
The "Is this a dagger I see before me?" speach had me rolling on the floor (Macbeth follows a cartoon dagger through the castle).
Lady Macbeth giving her final speach in a high stone tower, in Scotland, in the nude (I all could think of the entire time was "Jeepers she must be cold!)
Though I really disliked the film the end is very effective and creepy.
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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23rd December 07, 11:38 AM
#40
 Originally Posted by Panache
Mac...The Scottish Play in Feudal Japan (Note to self put on "Throne of Blood" on Netflix queue)
Don't forget Ran! (King Lear)
Andrew.
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