Kildare's

[Bigkahuna]

That's that new "Fusion" style.

[Wolfhawk]

South of the Texas border meets north of the English border.

[macwilkin]

Actually, there were quite a few members of the Irish diaspora in the Spanish colonies of the New World. Alejandro O'Reilly, for example, served in Spanish Louisiana and Puerto Rico as a Governor of the former and a military officer. Don Hugo Oconor (O'Connor) founded the Presidio de San Augustin del Tucson, which later became Tucson, Arizona:

http://www.manninghouse.com/tucson_founding.htm

Ambrosio O'Higgins, another Irish expatriate in the service of the Spanish Crown, bore an illegitmate son named Bernardo, who grew up to be one of the founders of the indepdent nation of Chile. Irish soldiers-of-fortune not only served in Spanish colonial forces, but also as volunteers with the forces of Simon Bolivar.

And of course, the most major symbol of the relationship between the Irish and the Mexicans was the Battalion de San Patricio of the Mexican War:

http://www.bandadegaitas.com.mx/homeEng.html

I know I'm being far too esoteric over a nachos sign in an Irish pub, but scratch the surface, and you'll find some interesting history:

http://www.irlandeses.org/

Con respecto,

Todd

[Dan R Porter]

San Patrico's!

Cajun scot are you here to ruin my fun again

[dfmacliam]

Watch the movie... One Man's Hero and it gives light to the San Patricios, and the cost they faced for fighting for Mexico.
My girl friend is Mexican from Mexico, and there becomes more similarities, as we learn more and more about each other... But then I also have some Spanish blood, as well as Black Irish.

[Dan R Porter]

All cultures have a lot in common one way or another, so I see little signifigance. Just my humble opinion.

This was just a joke about Kildares Authentic Irish Pub, not Kildares Irish/spanish pub.

[macwilkin]

Watch the movie... One Man's Hero and it gives light to the San Patricios, and the cost they faced for fighting for Mexico.
My girl friend is Mexican from Mexico, and there becomes more similarities, as we learn more and more about each other... But then I also have some Spanish blood, as well as Black Irish.

I wouldn't get my historical facts from it...Robert R. Miller's Shamrock & Sword from the University of Oklahoma Press is the best history of the San Patricios, INMHO, mostly because he deflates the myth that the San Patricios were all persecuted Irish Catholics who felt a common cause with Mexico. In fact, John O'Reilly, the unit's commander, appealed to the British ambassador for assistance when he was captured by the Americans, and even mentioned being a subject under the "Cross of St. George".

Dan -- I really didn't mean to offend -- as my wife will tell you, I love to bring up bits of esoteric trivia in the most unlikely of places.

T.

[dfmacliam]

It's not offensive, I learn a lot from you.. Usually with movies it's like a spring board. You get a basic interest and then you dig into the facts.. You cannot take too many movies to be completely historically correct, but it gets the general ideal across.

But the general idea of the movie, is true. Irish in the American army were persecuted for being catholic, they deserted and fled to Mexico. And many were hanged as traitors for joining the Mexican Army, at a climatic end of a battle, when the American flag was hoisted above the citidal.

[macwilkin]

All cultures have a lot in common one way or another, so I see little signifigance. Just my humble opinion.

This was just a joke about Kildares Authentic Irish Pub, not Kildares Irish/spanish pub.

See my previous post; Robert Miller does discuss the similarities between Latin American culture and Irish culture, especially in regards to Irish Catholic immigrants relations to their WASP neighbors in the USA. Miller certainly doesn't perpetuate the myth of the San Patricios, but there are a number of similarities that are not of "little significance", at least from a historical/cultural POV.

T.

[Bigkahuna]

And of course the "Black Irish" are descended from the survivors of the Spanish Armada that got wrecked on the Coast of Ireland. It's all good!