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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Miles View Post
    Exactly - again well said. Even worse they have no idea what you know or don't know nor do they in a reasonable manner try to have a bi-directional conversation. Quite a bit of self-aggrandizing pontifications from those who by reason of years alone should be sharing wisdom in a peaceful manner instead of bitter animosity
    Those with the years, experience and education to have the wisdom to form opinions on may of the topics raised on this board in regard to Scottish attire are quite often brushed off with those famous phrases; I like it like this, do what you want, this isn't Scotland... ect, ect. How do you want the members with wisdom to act to this type of treatment? Regardless of what people have been taught in school or told by their folk for the past 40-30 years, opinions are based on years of experience and education; i.e.. wisdom. Not some fanciful idea that everyone has some valid right to be heard on every topic equally. I think, I feel, therefore it is, not an opinion. I could give on opinion on the future of space travel. I have no background in this topic, nor have been schooled in any science related to this topic. If I were to join a message board created around this topic and populated by people who have knowledge in this field, could I just start telling them they are wrong, and my opinion counts? Not likely! So why do so many here feel they can do the same to people who have been wearing Scottish attire for more years than they have been on this earth? If you feel so strongly that your opinion has merit, than be prepared to defend it. And when your opinion gets brushed aside, maybe it was because it was flawed... or have all your opinions been right?

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    hmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by Highland Logan View Post
    Those with the years, experience and education to have the wisdom to form opinions on may of the topics raised on this board in regard to Scottish attire are quite often brushed off with those famous phrases; I like it like this, do what you want, this isn't Scotland... ect, ect. How do you want the members with wisdom to act to this type of treatment? Regardless of what people have been taught in school or told by their folk for the past 40-30 years, opinions are based on years of experience and education; i.e.. wisdom. Not some fanciful idea that everyone has some valid right to be heard on every topic equally. I think, I feel, therefore it is, not an opinion. I could give on opinion on the future of space travel. I have no background in this topic, nor have been schooled in any science related to this topic. If I were to join a message board created around this topic and populated by people who have knowledge in this field, could I just start telling them they are wrong, and my opinion counts? Not likely! So why do so many here feel they can do the same to people who have been wearing Scottish attire for more years than they have been on this earth? If you feel so strongly that your opinion has merit, than be prepared to defend it. And when your opinion gets brushed aside, maybe it was because it was flawed... or have all your opinions been right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan R Porter View Post
    "It would be refreshing if you brought something of substance to the forum instead the same old stale garbage that most of your posts are filled with."
    Nice kilt
    Last edited by Highland Logan; 13th July 09 at 05:11 PM. Reason: .

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    oops

    Sorry that was a qoute I posted, notice the qoutation marks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highland Logan View Post
    And when your opinion gets brushed aside, maybe it was because it was flawed... or have all your opinions been right?
    Opinions are just opinions - open to debate and are not law nor fact - the issue is some think their "opinion" or anecdotal evidence is law and is fact without even attempting to "hear" any other position

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    Well said nighthawk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan R Porter View Post
    Sorry that was a qoute I posted, notice the qoutation marks
    Hey Dan you misspelled quote - I think we need to berate you for 30 or 40 posts. maybe some back handed ridiculing and some condescending also.

    Nice kilt btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Miles View Post
    Opinions are just opinions - open to debate and are not law nor fact - the issue is some think their "opinion" or anecdotal evidence is law and is fact without even attempting to "hear" any other position
    I can agree with that. However, at some point one persons knowledge exceeds another's, and can make that persons opinion moot. Yet they persist in expressing it and are also not willing to listen or concede to those with more knowledge... just because you have an opinion doesn't make you right... sometimes you have to be gracious enough to admit it.

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    and sometimes you have some first hand knowledge of certain things that transcend opinions

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