A new Boy Scout in Kilt

**vorpallemur** · 24th September 09, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Chas

Who knows what this would cost to produce today. It is also debatable as to whether the boys would like it - it is rather bland.

I rather like it. I've recently seen a cotton flannel in this (or a very near variant).

**Chas** · 24th September 09, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by vorpallemur

I rather like it. I've recently seen a cotton flannel in this (or a very near variant).

Let me guess - You're not in your early to mid teens, are you?

Regards

Chas

**Computergeek** · 24th September 09, 03:13 PM

The boy scouts does not specifically require a uniform but does state that if a uniform is worn it must be worn properly. for those of us on the us side of the pond that means no kilt. out Scottish brethren have no such prohibition and it is an accepted variation of the uniform per the uniform policy in Scotland. Venture posts (another branch of the scouting organization) have more freedom in their uniform and dress. An individual post is allowed to set the uniform for that post and each post is independent of another. There are a number of venture posts that have adopted the kilt as a uniform and it in that situation is completely correct.
Cheers,
Jeremy

**Pleater** · 24th September 09, 03:52 PM

In the summer of 2008 there was a scout camp in Normandy with the theme of 'Scotland' - I am told that at least one French troop - boys and leaders went entirely kilted.

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

**ChrisfromMO** · 24th September 09, 06:55 PM

John,
My apologies, after reviewing the thread and refreshing my memory I remember not being able to find a picture or a reference to a kilt wearing regiment in B-P's bio. I beleive B-P served in the Indian(British) Army. In India and South Africa to be sure. The issue regarding the Cub Scout pants, out of fairness, was about requiring the pant. It was not specifically about wearing the kilt. District insisted that the decision was up to the Pack. Some Packs only have a "Class A". Ours has a "Class B" as we provide the shirt. A Boy Scout Troop in our area has a "Class C" The Kilt seemed a nice segway into Scottish Culture. Think of the projects and crafts. There are Sporans, Cromachs, Belts, and Turk's Head knots galour. Keeping the boys interested is about ninety percent of the battle when their attention span is literaly minutes. The Scout uniform is protected by Federal Law in the U.S. It's the same law that protects the military uniforms of our nation. I do not understand exactly how this law works. I wouln't think of putting on my old Dress Uniform, though the U.S. Code says I can as an honorably discharged combat Veteran. I have not put it on in 13 years. I'm also thirty (my wife would say fourty) pounds heavier than I was then. Any how, I understand your intention and motive as pure.
Happy Scouting
WARNING! All weight estimates in the above post were rounded down to the nearest ten pounds, and may be substantially more than was stated!
Chris

**MuffinMan** · 24th September 09, 07:59 PM

I am sorry for all the confusion, in our Troop ,the first Monday of a month, we all wear full Boy Scout uniforms. The other two meeting nights the boys wear Troop T-SHIRTS and whatever they want on the bottom. I am not aware if one wears a scouting T-SHIRT that one has to wear Official Scout shorts or pants. I am quite dismayed over all this bickering of me leading the boys down the path of rebellion, especially on a Kilt site where most of us have been misjudged on the reasons we wear a kilt.

MM

**MacKay71** · 24th September 09, 10:23 PM

MM,
If the boys in your unit are wearing the uniform when the leadership requires it, you are not leading them into rebellion, they are doing what is requred. Don't worry. This subject has been argued a long time and is not likely to be solved here.

Scott

**Woodsman** · 24th September 09, 10:30 PM

Exactly MuffinMan,
You are doing a great job volunteering as a scout leader.
Wearing the kilt is all in fun and that's what scouting is all about.
As a scout leader myself I fully support you!
Here, here!

At our summer camp this year we were lucky enought to have bagpipes each evening at colors. And the piper wore his kilt with his venture uniform.

**CDNSushi** · 24th September 09, 10:47 PM

Given the way you laid things out, I would agree, MM. You are doing the community a great service by volunteering your time to be a scout leader.

As for rebellion? The only way I can see it as being rebellious is if you were to be told by your higher-ups to cease and desist with the kilts, and you continued to do so regardless. But if the path you've chosen is accepted by your community, then anyone who is not a part of your local situation should refrain from offering unwelcome, contrary advice and suggestions -- they are out of order.

**MuffinMan** · 25th September 09, 06:33 AM

Thanks guys for the support I never meant things to have gotten ugly, we all know when we decide to wear an kilt that we face some social issues with people who do not like seeing things not to their norm. I take care when I am around the youth not to put in any situations that might bring harm to them and to me. I am a very active scout leader and I do not try to buck the system or have the boys do also. I just wanted to share that some boys have studied my kilts, questioned why I wear them, and then they went out on their own and purchase them. They found the reasons I gave were true and are happy with their decsion.

MM