Thanks knotty, this is mainly for my canopy tent that I use for a clan tent, last year it was sort of like a sail. I had used 3 stakes on each corner from my camping tent and drove then in at different angles, they lasted about 5 minutes "LOL"

I saw some plastic ones and they just don't have anything to grip with, and if I start doing games in KS and OK I will need something that will hold

most of the places I go will be mostly plain dirt to big ROCKS