Kilt Modesty Rant

[CDNSushi]

Men in general enjoy noticing women and a lot of men enjoy seeing things a little more exposed. OK, I won't go any further, because I think everyone gets what I am hinting at and I am not going to pretend I am not one of those men. It's just a males basic nature that goes into all kinds of opinions and moral beliefs. That said.........

I disagree that it's a male's basic nature. I think it's more a matter of culture and upbringing. That said...

I was at the Scottish Festival yesterday and I noticed a lot of men wearing shorts or speedo's under their kilts. Now let me make it clear I could care less if some man goes commando or wears undergarments under their kilt and that's is their preference, but to wear shorts or speedo's seems to me to be......1 pointless and 2 a bit of a double standard. Don't you think women would like some eye candy?

And yet you do [care] based on your comment above. But more to the point, I think you'll find many who would also disagree that it's pointless, and as for the second bit, I don't feel I owe the ladies anything, much less my exposed genitals. If someone wants eye candy, they can go buy a calendar to ogle. And I would say the same to any man. If you want to ogle someone, buy a magazine. But even more specifically... I would hope that someday both men AND women could learn to respect one another without reducing them to mere body parts, and sexualizing them, thereby eliminating the need for calendars and magazines. But I guess I'm just really utopian that way.

If you're worried that someone might see your junk or underwear. don't you think you should learn to wear or move and sit in a kilt correctly. I mean come on...... men brag about their junk all the time! So, don't you think. That if they are that worried about their modesty. They would be a little more respectful towards a Woman's modesty?

Again, culture and upbringing (or lack thereof). But as for wearing shorts or speedos in an effort to preserve modesty, I won't be the one to judge, as for the vast majority of us (I suspect), kilt-wearing has come later in life, far past our formative years when we were taught how to sit and behave properly. Where I grew up, men often sat with their legs wide open, as if they wanted to invited people in... So it's no wonder that someone who was never taught to sit legs together, or crossed at the ankles or thighs (rather than one ankle resting on the opposite thigh) would want to wear something underneath when they start wearing a kilt. If you've always sat in certain ways, I imagine it's a hard habit to break, and just because you put on a kilt doesn't necessarily mean you'll instantly start sitting differently. Many more women, on the other hand, having been taught since a very young age, from wearing dresses and skirts, are probably a bit more mindful of it.

So, I can't help but to wonder about a couple of things. Is men wearing shorts under their kilts a common thing?

It IS if you're borrowing one... In fact, many hire shops would insist you do. As for everyone else, other than the obligatory mention that the forum has gone down this path many a time before, you'll probably find the answers are all over the board. I don' t think there is such a thing as a "norm," and anything you find for an average, will have a very broad standard deviation and have a very flat curve.

As for me, personally, I don't care whether anyone knows what I got or don't got underneath. I generally DO, for the simple reason of hygiene and that I can get far more wear (without washing or dry cleaning) if my skin does NOT come into contact with my kilts (which tend to be rather on the expensive side). If it were a $99 knock-around, then I wouldn't care nearly so much, I think. But in general, I do the same thing even on my upper body, by wearing undershirts. Any one of my shirts costs a fair bit more than an undershirt, so it behooves me to make them last a lot longer by wearing them more than once -- which is only possible when I limit the amount of body sweat and odor from permeating the fabric. (And shirts are less expensive than trousers or kilts, generally. So I DO take that much more care with my expensive clothes).