Quote Originally Posted by Hamish View Post
That is what I have always done, Jock. I have also tied my ties in a Windsor knot for as long as I can remember (but not quite back to when they were first invented!!), which uses up a little more tie than some other knots. On the other hand, I am/was (!) fairly tall and that must help.
Ha, was Noah really grumpy?

Okay, ties: note that in the UK ties are worn commonly by everybody (that's a universal general statement). Ties are so much rarer and special event here. Tucking the extra piece in, as recommended, is the standard practice.