so would u say an argyle with waist coat is not formal enough for the opera?...... i was thinkn the PC would be a lil to much for an operayhmmmm.....as for the black kilt, at first i have to admit i was very hesitant in gettn it but when i put it on with the PC and wasit coat i have to say i think its pretty sharp... especially if everyone is in a tux and the kilt is black as well.... as for the ruche tie with 5 button wasit coat.... i think i may get a plain burgandy tie ..... id hate to wear the the PC to tthe opera after i have worn it to a palace ball....any more suggestions now if i wear the pc to the opera yes then i will wear the murray tartan....does anyone have any thoughts on an arglye to an opera ,in box seats, then off to a 5 star restaruant after words? the argyle mind u is navy and not black.... thanks to all the replies so far im taking your comments on board