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                                                15th September 11, 12:19 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Re: Black Cap Toe Oxfords
		
			
				
					
	Well then, it's decided isn't it? She's a tasteful lady and that means you get to think just a little less about such things, lucky you. Ignore this opportunity knocking at your peril.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by CMcG    These are the ones my lass likes best so far:  
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                15th September 11, 06:31 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Re: Black Cap Toe Oxfords NO!
		
			
				
					NOT captoes. If you are spending on custom, go for WHOLECUTS, which are cut from a single piece of leather and are absolutely completely plain. And you won't see another pair like them in three days time, instead of everybody having them.    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pal-Zileri-W...item2a0f1a6258
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                                                15th September 11, 08:11 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					No offense to MacLowlife, I would only want plain toe in shell cordovan.
 I like the second photo you offered oriinally. Traditional, not ostentatious, but very dressy. Top grain leather will take a shine you can use to part your hair. (I assume you know how to do a military shine.)
 
 Few things look better for more occassions. My cap toes are my goto shoes for a suit, and the rounded tow--as opposed to the slightly squared toe--never go out of style. Never.
 
 This is the pair I wear, Florsheim. I was about to order a pait of Allen Edmunds, but these came up for sale at a very attractive price, so I bough them.
 
 
  
 Finally, I like leather soles with leather heels that have a small rubber insert on the back of the heel to keep down wear. I used to wear leather heels with a steel wedge in the back corner, but I haven't seen that for years.
 Jim KillmanWriter, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
 Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                15th September 11, 09:48 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	What you refer to as the steel wedge wouldn't be what is known as "blakey's" would they, which are still available worldwide to this day
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by thescot   Finally, I like leather soles with leather heels that have a small rubber insert on the back of the heel to keep down wear. I used to wear leather heels with a steel wedge in the back corner, but I haven't seen that for years. 
				
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                                                15th September 11, 11:39 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	When I bought my loakes I had the cobbler put on these "steel wedges" (as you call them) for me.  It's quite a common job for a cobbler.  I think that the problem nowadays is finding a true craftsman cobbler.  Craftsmen cobblers are definately getting harder to find in France.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by thescot   ***SNIP***
 
 Finally, I like leather soles with leather heels that have a small rubber insert on the back of the heel to keep down wear. I used to wear leather heels with a steel wedge in the back corner, but I haven't seen that for years.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                16th September 11, 05:06 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I wasn't familiar with the term, so I looked up "Blakey's" and found their website. Shoe protectors made in Leeds for over 100 years, now available online.http://www.blakeys-segs.co.uk/
 
 Cheers,
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                                                16th September 11, 05:40 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	By the way... Can I also have a pair in Military Tan Brown?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by English Bloke     
These are flippin' gaaaaawgeous!
 
I want some!   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                16th September 11, 08:33 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Cap toes are not really my style, but those are some nice looking shoes!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by English Bloke   Order of the Dandelion, The Houston Area Kilt Society, Bald Rabble in Kilts, Kilted Texas Rabble Rousers, The Flatcap Confederation, Kilted Playtron Group."If you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk"
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th September 11, 06:20 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Apologies for my delayed reply; I've been out sight-seeing  
 For some reason I can't multi-quote more than two people in a thread, so I'll have to post over top of myself a few times here...
 
 
 
	Yes Father, the diagram definitely helps. Thanks!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Father Bill   <snip>Hope that helps.
 
 As for the number of eyelets, your suggestion of four over six is a little different compared to the pictures that I've been looking at... is that what you have on your shoes or is that a wish?
 
 Anyone else have an opinion on number of eyelets?
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                                                17th September 11, 06:24 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			soles and formality
		
			
				
					
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by pascs   I have some beautiful pairs of shoes like those in your pics, I'm not sure about thinner=more formal. Mine have 3 layers of leather on the sole, can look formal with a suit but great with jeans and make a lovely sound on a wooden dance floor   
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	My intention for these shoes is to reserve them for dressing up, so I hope I won't have to crush any rocks with them
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Father Bill   <snip>... and a further thought just occurred to me.  At 215 lbs, I hate having thin soles.  If I step on a stone, I want to crush it, not have it come up through the sole into my foot.  For that reason, I'd ask for a thick sole, or even a double one.  I have often taken brand new shoes straight to the cobbler and asked him to add a second sole, and then put the heel back on.  It's a wonderful feeling once you get used to it and looks rather manly.
  
 Personally I like a thick rubber sole for both cushion and grip. The reason I'm under the impression that a thick sole (including extra leather) would be less formal is the general aesthetic of refined elegance that goes with increasing formality. It's also a question of tradition: thick, rugged soles for outdoors and thin, smooth soles for indoors.
 
 I'm still toying with the idea of a rubber heel for a bit of traction but maybe a partial rubber heel would be enough. And those Blakey's must make quite the sound though I'm sure they protect the shoe very well!
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