[Rob wrote 'Rhino's comment that he doesn't actually care whether his kilt pin is 2" in and 3" up or stuck between his eyes- well I care (probably too much).']

Hi Rob,
please be assured no offense was intended, my point was that there needs to be people like you who know about such things, and there's room for people like me who are a little laid back (read that as scruffy).
Your input is very useful and who knows you may even convert a scruffbag like me with a kilt pin in his forehead, now that would be something to brag about.
Cheers Rhino
PS Rob you can't care too much