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                                                9th December 11, 09:25 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Help identify this tartan and subject
		
			
				
					I need the help of all the Xmarks detectives out there.  This week I was visiting family in Florida and I went to the Museum of Arts & Sciences, Daytona Beach.  In the Museum they have a section called the " visible storage area" that is just that, ceramics, sculpture, arms, armour, furniture and paintings- thousands of the stacked behind clear walls. As I came to one section I was amazed to find a beautifully painted life size painting of a Scotsman. I went to the info desk and asked after the painting, they had me meet with the Chief Currator ( who is a very nice Welsh woman) and the painting Currator. They gave me some information that they have after I told them about this informative site and asked if we could gather more info.Here is the info: Artist is J. Hamilton Mackensie, Title- " PORTRAIT OF A YOUNG SCOTSMAN"   Ca. 1900  oil on canvas
 I have 2 photos and have requested a closeup of the head area.
 
  
 
 more to come
 Omnibus rebus impossibilibus remotis, quidquid relictum sit, quamvis, debet esse veritas.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                9th December 11, 09:28 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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  up close it looks like a dark green velvet doublet.
 lets see what the Xmarks detectives can come up with.
 Omnibus rebus impossibilibus remotis, quidquid relictum sit, quamvis, debet esse veritas.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                9th December 11, 11:32 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					MacDonald or Cameron of Erracht, possibly Cochrane lthough that's much less likely. A close up will confirm if there is a yellow stripe.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                10th December 11, 07:40 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					This is the best closeup I can do until the museum sends me one, hope it helps.
   Omnibus rebus impossibilibus remotis, quidquid relictum sit, quamvis, debet esse veritas.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                10th December 11, 07:47 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					and a closeup of the head
   Omnibus rebus impossibilibus remotis, quidquid relictum sit, quamvis, debet esse veritas.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                10th December 11, 08:38 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Very interesting!  I'm still on the trail, but here is an interesting site that gives a bit of information regarding the artist, as well as some examples of his other works:
 http://www.roeandmoore.co.uk/artist....mes%20Hamilton
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                                                11th December 11, 06:30 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Looks more like a white stripe in which case MacDonell of Glengarry is more likely. The cap badge is difficult to make out. It might just be a standard Scottish Rampant Lion rather than a specific clan one.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                11th December 11, 06:58 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by SFCRick   and a closeup of the head  
	having enlarged the badge, it looks like the top quarters -from rear haunch to top of head (demi) of a horse, or possibly lion, rearing up (rampant).
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by figheadair   Looks more like a white stripe in which case MacDonell of Glengarry is more likely. The cap badge is difficult to make out. It might just be a standard Scottish Rampant Lion rather than a specific clan one. 
 
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                                                13th December 11, 04:14 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					New clear Tartan pic
  badge
 
  
 What do you make of the single Eagle feather?, decoration? or something else?
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                                                13th December 11, 06:13 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Cant make out the detail in the badge.  Is there anything in the lion's raised paw?  If a blade is extending from the paw, length and angle would help determine clan representation.
 From body shape, Farquharson, MacDuff and Young are all possible as well as others.
 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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