Obviously the final decision will be up to Hank.

Obviously we aren't going to come up with a kilt pin that everyone thinks is absolutely perfect.

Also, I wasn't saying that a kilt pin must be long and thin, or that all of them are. I was just saying that perhaps there is a reason why the vast majority of them tend to be so, and that we can make a pin that is long and thin, yet still unique and instantly recognisable.

For those of you that think it needs to be a completely different shape to be recongnisable, I would suggest that is not the case at all. People who don't wear kilts are going to be more focused on the kilt itself than they are on the pin. Yes, I have had people comment on the kilt pin, but they aren't nearly as common as those that comment on the kilt itself. On the other hand there are other people who wear kilts (everyone from people who wear it once a year, to people who wear it full time). These people will notice that our kiltpin is not the kind that they see all the time no matter how we make it.

Like you, Graham, I am definitely going to buy one if this project comes to fruitition, no matter what the pin ends up looking like. For that reason I would like us to all take this seriously and try to make the best kilt pin we can.