U.S. customs

[Tobus]

It's part of the racket that Fedex and UPS have worked out with Customs...

In all fairness, Customs itself was a racket long before UPS and FedEx existed. Heck, even before the continent of America was discovered, customs officers (or excisemen) were stealing from people just because they could.

And we wonder why so many of our Scottish forefathers were accomplished smugglers...

[madmacs]

In all fairness, Customs itself was a racket long before UPS and FedEx existed. Heck, even before the continent of America was discovered, customs officers (or excisemen) were stealing from people just because they could.

And we wonder why so many of our Scottish forefathers were accomplished smugglers...

Duties are one thing... Outrageous brokerage fees are something else...

[Tobus]

Duties are one thing... Outrageous brokerage fees are something else...

The "one thing" and the "something else" both equal "theft" in my book. It matters not at all whether the person holding my rightful property hostage is wearing a government uniform or a private company uniform. In either case, they claim the authority to keep something which doesn't belong to them until a ransom is paid to get it back. In any other facet of life, this would be outrageously criminal.

[madmacs]

The "one thing" and the "something else" both equal "theft" in my book. It matters not at all whether the person holding my rightful property hostage is wearing a government uniform or a private company uniform. In either case, they claim the authority to keep something which doesn't belong to them until a ransom is paid to get it back. In any other facet of life, this would be outrageously criminal.

I do recall a.case where someone on one of the watch forums I used to frequent refused to pay the brokerage fees. He quite rightly pointed out that the contract that fedex had existed with the sender not the receiver. Not quite sure how that resolved itself, but I think he had the goods without paying the fees.

The government is very up front about you owing duty on what you import, so I would say it's a part of doing business across borders as I believe Steve mentioned above. Fedex not so much...

I always advocate USPS and royal mail. A lot of the time USPS is cheaper than UPS or fedex anyway... but it's also a case of use it or lose it for me... and being a rural customer, I'd rather they were still around...

[artificer]

I always advocate USPS and royal mail. A lot of the time USPS is cheaper than UPS or fedex anyway... but it's also a case of use it or lose it for me... and being a rural customer, I'd rather they were still around...

This is VERY true. One package I priced out to go overseas with a fairly high amount of insurance would have cost $142US for FedEx, I paid $45US to get it there fully insured with USPS.

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[madmacs]

This is VERY true. One package I priced out to go overseas with a fairly high amount of insurance would have cost $142US for FedEx, I paid $45US to get it there fully insured with USPS.

ith:

I sent a VERY expensive watch to Norway once, insured through UPS was silly money... I ended up about the same $$$ as you for USPS and had the peace of mind of a signature at every handover of the parcel

[unixken]

I cringe, wondering how much I'll be paying in import duty, on what amounted to an over $4000-dollar order. I budgeted a worst-case 25%, when I went in.

I don't want so pricey an order sitting on a dock somewhere, untracked, for days/weeks. I've no comfort for less than expedited shipping and a tracking number.

[saxandpipes]

The "one thing" and the "something else" both equal "theft" in my book. It matters not at all whether the person holding my rightful property hostage is wearing a government uniform or a private company uniform. In either case, they claim the authority to keep something which doesn't belong to them until a ransom is paid to get it back. In any other facet of life, this would be outrageously criminal.

I agree with you Tobus (Although taxes have to be paid on anything- and thus when importing something which has (theoretically) not had tax paid in the country of origin, one will have to pay that tax when the thing arrives to the destination country).

I had a situation where I was forced to pay 50 euro for a christmas package from my mother (basically the value of the contents all over again!) just to recieve it. What quite frankly @#$%ed me off was the fact that taxes had been paid on everything already when my mum purchased them in New Zealand. So of course they held my parcel until I paid the tax and the "commission" to the @#$%holes to release it.

I didn't dare to tell my mother- she would have felt guilty.

Plain and simple: it's a crime.

Michael

[creagdhubh]

In all fairness, Customs itself was a racket long before UPS and FedEx existed. Heck, even before the continent of America was discovered, customs officers (or excisemen) were stealing from people just because they could.

And we wonder why so many of our Scottish forefathers were accomplished smugglers...

Agreed. I always have my supplier(s) send my Highland attire items via Royal Mail (Small Packets)/regular postal service, or perhaps another way that isn't FedEx, UPS, or DHL. The Highland dress companies in which I have chosen to do business with over the years know me, and we have developed a rather unique relationship, so I am quite sure this is why they agreed to help me avoid ridiculous U.S. customs fees.

I sympathise with you mate,