Civil service decorations with the kilt?

**Glen** · 26th February 12, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown

Well, I'm afraid he gave you some bad info.

Unless the invitation to the event or occasion specified that medals were to be worn it's called showing off, the worst form of bragging, to arrive festooned with medals. Bad form all the way around.

Not north here in Canada....

**Detroitpete** · 26th February 12, 11:52 AM

First things first: VERY good to see you Jock!

Since I'm the lad who stirred the pot here, I feel I need to make a few things very clear: I respect and thank ALL those who serve the public, in any way.

Perhaps my distaste for wearing medals while kilted has to do with how I view wearing the kilt (My opinions on wearing military medals post militart service notwithstanding).

To me, the kilt is a garment I choose to wear. I wear it as often as I can, whenever and wherever I can. To me, it is worn in place of jeans, khakis, slacks, suits and even tuxedoes. Again, in MY opinion and my wearing of it, a kilt can, with coordinating attire, be worn at any occasion as the other items I listed. I do not see it as a special uniform or costume. I am perhaps very wrong in this thinking, but it is how I see things.

To this end, I personally would think it very silly for me to wear medals or ribbons in my out-and-about apparel (jeans, khakis, slacks, suit). I would also find it silly for me to wear them with a tux unless the specific event protocol required it.

So, I'm a fuddy duddy

That's ok, I'm the same way about heraldry. I have issues, I know

**Father Bill** · 26th February 12, 11:54 AM

Welcome home, Jock!

**SlackerDrummer** · 28th February 12, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Geoff Withnell

Actually, turns out not to be the case for the USMC. The regs state that veterans may wear medals, minature medals, or ribbons on appropriate occasions at the discretion of the wearer. Good judgement is expected to be exercised in not wearing decorations with inappropriate attire or on inappropriate occasions that would not reflect well on the Corps, Since minature ribbons are not a uniform item so far as I know, they aren't mentioned. The regs do state that minature medals MAY be worn on formal occasions with civilian attire, but I think this is because some of the formal uniforms require full size medals.

I am unaware that there are any regulations specifically for veterans since they are no longer bound by them, but I certainly stand to be corrected. Where would I find it?

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 28th February 12, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer

I am unaware that there are any regulations specifically for veterans since they are no longer bound by them, but I certainly stand to be corrected. Where would I find it?

The uniform regulations of each of the various armed services of the United States lay out the branch specific regulations for the wearing of military insignia, including medals, with civilian attire.

For example, Army Regulation 670-1 governs the wearing of US Army uniforms, insignia, and medals by active duty, reserve, retired, and former members of the United States Army.

**Harold Cannon** · 28th February 12, 06:30 PM

How did we get from civil service decorations to military?

**SlackerDrummer** · 28th February 12, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown

The uniform regulations of each of the various armed services of the United States lay out the branch specific regulations for the wearing of military insignia, including medals, with civilian attire.

For example, Army Regulation 670-1 governs the wearing of US Army uniforms, insignia, and medals by active duty, reserve, retired, and former members of the United States Army.

Yes, I am aware of that, Scott. That's where I got the information I laid out in post #23 of this thread - from each branch's official regulations. Geoff contradicted what I had posted, suggesting that there were different regulations for USMC veterans. I was asking where those might be found because I am unaware of them.

Sorry for getting off task, Harold. I'll comment no more off topic in this thread.

**Chas** · 1st March 12, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Harold Cannon

How did we get from civil service decorations to military?

Well said - I was wondering that!

Regards

Chas

**Harold Cannon** · 7th March 12, 01:34 PM

I have been looking at different ways of mounting these. The bar that the U.K. uses where they are stitched to the bar is really nice and I could do that myself.

I also really like the look of court mounting. Too bad it isn't used here in the U.S. or at least I havent seen it used.