doublebreasted jackets- again

[Glen]

There is a double breasted kilt jacket for sale on eBay right now. 43" chest:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gents-Shor...item1c24c05883

[Glen]

And another one on ebay, but ending very soon...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSICS-D...#ht_937wt_1058

[MacLowlife]

I have just finished reading 15 pages of posts about the good and bad aspects of being called a gentleman. One of the things many people dislike and seem to be complaining about is snobbery. Please forgive me, then, when I say that both of the eBay jackets leave a little something to be desired.

People sometimes will say something about "the cut of (one's) jib" which means something hard to define, but sort of refers to (one's) general style. I am going to sound snobbish here, but here goes: my eye has been trained by looking at a whole lot of clothing, both Saxon and Highland and it is unpleasantly jarred by both of these conversions. The shawl collared one has too much gap between the top buttons and the collar, which is too small, also. The peak lapel one ought to button more than just on the bottom set of buttons. They both look awkward and un-stylish.

This is all my own opinion, but one based on a fair amount of critical observation. I hope that whoever buys or bought these jackets can enjoy them, but I would run from both of them. And I am a proud wearer of converted jackets and idiosyncratic doublets. Just not these.

[Bugbear]

I have just finished reading 15 pages of posts about the good and bad aspects of being called a gentleman. One of the things many people dislike and seem to be complaining about is snobbery. Please forgive me, then, when I say that both of the eBay jackets leave a little something to be desired.

People sometimes will say something about "the cut of (one's) jib" which means something hard to define, but sort of refers to (one's) general style. I am going to sound snobbish here, but here goes: my eye has been trained by looking at a whole lot of clothing, both Saxon and Highland and it is unpleasantly jarred by both of these conversions. The shawl collared one has too much gap between the top buttons and the collar, which is too small, also. The peak lapel one ought to button more than just on the bottom set of buttons. They both look awkward and un-stylish.

This is all my own opinion, but one based on a fair amount of critical observation. I hope that whoever buys or bought these jackets can enjoy them, but I would run from both of them. And I am a proud wearer of converted jackets and idiosyncratic doublets. Just not these.

First, MacLowlife, I don't consider you a snob, and thank you for not putting me on your ignore list… yet.

Second, I recall someone, a while back, having a double breasted jacket converted into a Prince Charlie by a tailor, and I think I recall that it worked well; interesting effect.
Finally, I would trust your eye over most, MacLowlife.

[Glen]

I have just finished reading 15 pages of posts about the good and bad aspects of being called a gentleman. One of the things many people dislike and seem to be complaining about is snobbery. Please forgive me, then, when I say that both of the eBay jackets leave a little something to be desired.

I echo Bugbear, and don't consider your comments as snobbery...

I posted the link for information. Both are used jackets, however, perhaps from estate. Price is also an element.

People sometimes will say something about "the cut of (one's) jib" which means something hard to define, but sort of refers to (one's) general style. I am going to sound snobbish here, but here goes: my eye has been trained by looking at a whole lot of clothing, both Saxon and Highland and it is unpleasantly jarred by both of these conversions. The shawl collared one has too much gap between the top buttons and the collar, which is too small, also.

Yes, the gap between the top button and the rolled collar does appear strange, but that may be from storage or something, as at the level of the top button, the jacket does appear to have a bit of bend where the collar should start. As well, in some decades, collars were much smaller, so that may reflect the age of the jacket. Rolled collars are also simply unusual.

The peak lapel one ought to button more than just on the bottom set of buttons. They both look awkward and un-stylish.

With only the lower set of buttons, the jacket looks more towards an Eton style, but on the back are two buttons as well as an interesting cut.

This is all my own opinion, but one based on a fair amount of critical observation. I hope that whoever buys or bought these jackets can enjoy them, but I would run from both of them. And I am a proud wearer of converted jackets and idiosyncratic doublets. Just not these.

One sale has closed with no bids, and the other shows no bids, yet. They can be enjoyed because they have been used before, yet alone the price.

[MacLowlife]

Thanks, Bugbear and Glen. Reading a little more closely, I think the Peak lapel one is a lady's jacket, or at least is listed that way. The buttons and closure look to be man styled, but it is a size 16.

I do think the other one might have suffered from storage and pressing, as you say, Glen. I would like to see it on, or at least on a mannequin. Unfortunately, the sleeves are pretty short, so it wouldn't do for me anyway, with my monkey arms.

[Glen]

Thanks, Bugbear and Glen. Reading a little more closely, I think the Peak lapel one is a lady's jacket, or at least is listed that way. The buttons and closure look to be man styled, but it is a size 16.

Yes, it is listed as ladies, but I can not see any side darts in the pictures that I would expect with a ladies jacket.

I do think the other one might have suffered from storage and pressing, as you say, Glen. I would like to see it on, or at least on a mannequin. Unfortunately, the sleeves are pretty short, so it wouldn't do for me anyway, with my monkey arms.

My arms are the other extreme, and I always have to have the sleeves shortened with cuffs moved as needed.