Quote Originally Posted by creagdhubh View Post

This may seem a wee bit neurotic and I may possess too much attention to detail, but I suppose that is the clean-cut Marine in me!
I feel your pain for the same reasons I've asked this myself before, and have been tying, and re-tying for months. I can't seem to do it. I get a good bow but a bad knot or a good knot and a bad bow. I've given up and have gone with ironing them flat, then trimming them just short enough to not be poked in an eye during wind.

Advice I remember from my question was having a florist tie me a separate bow and then just sew it on. Possibility for ya?