Historical alternatives to a prince charlie jacket in the titanic / ragtime era

[JSFMACLJR]

I doubt any passenger-- first class to steerage-- would have worn the kilt aboard the RMS Titanic. Perhaps a soldier in a Highland regiment would be in uniform, if travelling on active duty, but I really do doubt anyone else would be in a kilt.Wear a dark suit, white shirt, and dark necktie.

[JSFMACLJR]

I believe that this is what we actually disagree about. I don't believe that the average Scot travelling third class in 1912 would own a kilt in the first place.

Exactly.

[Thorina]

I believe that this is what we actually disagree about. I don't believe that the average Scot travelling third class in 1912 would own a kilt in the first place.

Why not?

[Thorina]

I suppose I need to be more specific in my reasoning. Does everyone in Scotland get issued a kilt? No. Does every Scot wear a kilt now? No. Did they in 1912? No. Would it be common to see men kilted on a cruise ship in 1912? No, probably not. Is it historically possible? Yes, I believe it is.
Common? No. Possible? Yes.

Make more sense?

[Panache]

When attending a costume event it is always best to get into the Spirit of the Event. Highland attire is quite wonderful but it really doesn't fit the theme of "third class passenger ball on the Titanic". You certainly can do it if you want, but it just isn't quite getting into the spirit of the thing in my opinion.

Think for a minute if you were invited to a 50's themed Sock Hop or a 40's themed Noir cocktail party would you wear a kilt? You could. Highland attire was certainly around in the 40's and 50's , but it just doesn't quite work.

Cheers

Jamie

[Nick the DSM]

And please don't wear a jacobite shirt. It's not really historical at all.

[Thorina]

When attending a costume event it is always best to get into the Spirit of the Event. Highland attire is quite wonderful but it really doesn't fit the theme of "third class passenger ball on the Titanic". You certainly can do it if you want, but it just isn't quite getting into the spirit of the thing in my opinion.
Think for a minute if you were invited to a 50's themed Sock Hop or a 40's themed Noir cocktail party would you wear a kilt? You could. Highland attire was certainly around in the 40's and 50's , but it just doesn't quite work.

Cheers

Jamie

Finer point, I suppose. I read his original post as....I am going to wear a kilt, what can I wear with it, not "should I wear a kilt?".

The answer to the question of "should I" is: probably not.

Completely depends on how large an event, etc as well.

I assisted in making costumes for a stage play of Brigadoon. We put every male in a kilt. Actually more like a tartan hula skirt....but we called them kilts.

Should Brigadoon actually exist....would every single man in town have been wearing his finest tartan at all times? Well, no, of course not.
But, as a stage play...it had to *look* like what people would imagine as being Brigadoon. Artistic license vs complete historical accuracy.

If it is that sort of reenactment (like Brigadoon), then no....don't wear a kilt. If it is a bunch of friends, etc getting together to have fun....then have fun and do what you want.

[Chas]

For what it is worth, I thought that the majority of 3^rd class passengers were Irish or Middle European.

Regards

Chas

[opositive]

what about hand me downs or used? i thought that until the last 100 years or so that most clothes were home made and/or hand me downs. much of my dress/work clothes (along with my kilts) are used and purchased much cheaper than new.

edit. oops saw post above-if mostly irish and poor, not too many kilts--my postulate is based much more on the idea of hand me down among scots. just do not wear saffron.

[Panache]

Thorina,

For the purposes of the musical Brigadoon it would great if all the villagers of the mythical town wore tartan. However I think that the dancers are probably better clad in trews than kilts (especially for those high steps and kicks).

Of course the OP can do as he wishes, but a highland outfit isn't exactly going to be fitting in with the theme of the dance.

In a week or so I will be attending a Hawaiian themed adult evening fundraiser for my daughters school. The theme is (obviously) Hawaiian. Now I am known for my highland outfits at the school but I certainly won't be wearing one for this event. Instead I will be sporting a Hawaiian shirt and my favorite straw beach hat. Because that is the theme and I want to contribute to that atmosphere the planners are working so hard to achieve.

Now if the theme was "safari" I probably could come up with a kilted outfit that would work and could easily and fit in with the theme. I would be then be participating in, adding to, and helping the party's theme.

Highland attire is grand stuff, but it just isn't always the right choice for and event.

Cheers

Jamie

Finer point, I suppose. I read his original post as....I am going to wear a kilt, what can I wear with it, not "should I wear a kilt?".

The answer to the question of "should I" is: probably not.

Completely depends on how large an event, etc as well.

I assisted in making costumes for a stage play of Brigadoon. We put every male in a kilt. Actually more like a tartan hula skirt....but we called them kilts.

Should Brigadoon actually exist....would every single man in town have been wearing his finest tartan at all times? Well, no, of course not.
But, as a stage play...it had to *look* like what people would imagine as being Brigadoon. Artistic license vs complete historical accuracy.

If it is that sort of reenactment (like Brigadoon), then no....don't wear a kilt. If it is a bunch of friends, etc getting together to have fun....then have fun and do what you want.