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Is tartan another assault on our Norse heritage?
From Caithness.org
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What sort of statement and committment to future generations is a Caithnessian making when on his wedding day he proudly encloses his hurdies in tartan? Why it must be a Highland gaelic one. You have been suduced by tartan fripperies originating among gaelic speaking populations and promulgated by sporran swinging storm troopers from gaelic choirs.
The only answer to preserve our racial purity must be to ban kilts from real Caithness weddings and replace them with some form of thonged leggings as worn by Ragnar Hairybreeks (Kirk Douglas) in the epic movie "The Vikings"!
http://forum.caithness.org/showthrea...orse-heritage&
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Chris
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Makes sense up in that area, but I have to wonder:
Why not both?
After all, it's not as though there might not have been a wee bit of cultural mixing going on back in the day
Or back in the night. . .
"It's all the same to me, war or peace,
I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."
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 Originally Posted by Dale Seago
Makes sense up in that area, but I have to wonder:
Why not both?
After all, it's not as though there might not have been a wee bit of cultural mixing going on back in the day
Or back in the night. . .
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Originally Posted by Dale Seago
Makes sense up in that area ...
One might think, except for this. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/s...ds/7976510.stm
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Originally Posted by xman
Very interesting X ! It would be rather ironic if those individuals claiming it to be a Norse area discovered they were actually of Gaelic DNA .
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I have always known that many Scots are proud of having viking blood, but it suprises me that some are so dismissive of their Gaelic heritage. As Dale so rightfully says, cultural mixing most definetly took place. Of what I have read about Scottish history, the vikings was most active on the Western Isles. The Orkney and Shetland was a Norse region until 1266 and it would be natural to think that cultural mixing with Caithness 16 km away occurred frequently. Tartan "fripperies" is not a contradiction to ones Norse heritage since there is Norwegian tartans that have roots all the way back to the year 1612.
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Originally Posted by Dale Seago
Makes sense up in that area, but I have to wonder:
Why not both?
After all, it's not as though there might not have been a wee bit of cultural mixing going on back in the day
Or back in the night. . .
Definitely. There are many clans of Viking origin. The mighty Somerled, Lord of the Isles, progenitor of the Macdonalds, MacAlisters, etc, was 50% viking. Other clans with viking roots include Gunn, MacAuley, MacDougall, and MacLeod, among others.
As I've posted before, there was a project over here called "Face of Britain", (although it included all of Ireland :confused: ). It was a large 5 year experiment where 2000 people in each area/town/city was tested for their DNA by Bryan Sykes, an Oxford University professor.
People from Shetland, Orkney and even Lewis had absolutely no Briton/Pictish male DNA whatsoever, but there was a surviving line of Pictish female DNA. This supported what both history and folklore tells us, that those islands were inhabited by Picts, then the Vikings arrived and massacred all the Pictish males, forcing their women and daughters into slavery/partnership. Horrifying.
On the north mainland around 60% of the Scottish men have Norwegian Viking DNA, with the remaining 40% having markers similar to the Ancient Britons, with no evidence of Anglo-Saxon or Danish influences. In the Hebrides, the figure for Norwegian Viking DNA was around 30%, so obviously Norwegian Vikings colonised the Orkneys and the north of Scotland in a heavier manner.
So, yes, why not both?
Last edited by MacSpadger; 15th May 12 at 01:10 AM.
Reason: link repaired
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I have Norwegian roots on my Dad's side (Hougas ) and Scottish roots on my Mom's
side (Ferguson) and I enjoy both cluture's very much. Living in the Southern parts of America ,there are not alot of Norse culture -So I do not get to do much with it.
But , When I found out I was a Ferguson in Georgia -I found alot of things to do with Scottish Heritage - I find wearing my Kilt in Ferguson tarten very enjoyable -I find wearing my Wool tunic a bit warm LOL 
Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
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Originally Posted by Dale Seago
Makes sense up in that area, but I have to wonder:
Why not both?
After all, it's not as though there might not have been a wee bit of cultural mixing going on back in the day
Or back in the night. . .
I don't believe there has been an invasion or occupation in history where some "mixing" didn't take place.
We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb
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15th May 12, 10:21 AM
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The only answer to preserve our racial purity must be to ban kilts from real Caithness weddings and replace them with some form of thonged leggings as worn by Ragnar Hairybreeks (Kirk Douglas) in the epic movie "The Vikings"!
Ragnar was played by Ernest Borgnine. Kirk Douglas played his son, and yes, I am showing off.
Scotland is only 1/5 the size of Montana, but Scotland has over 3,000 castles and Montana has none.
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