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24th December 12, 01:59 PM
#11
for the full text ( for those looking for names missing from OP) :
http://www.electricscotland.com/webc...y_register.htm
waulk softly and carry a big schtick
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24th December 12, 04:12 PM
#12
Does this list mean that Clan Shaw was staying out of trouble or were we covered under the umbrella of Chattan?
The Official [BREN]
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24th December 12, 04:39 PM
#13
Ahhh... that 'splains it then. Bucclech simply hadn't upset the right (or wrong) people at the time! 
Thanks Rex!
John
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24th December 12, 04:53 PM
#14
Since Shaw is from Macintosh and Farquharson is from Shaw, and they all lived adjacent to each other and next to the Grants, I would say they were implicated also. Plus the fact of being part of the Chattan Confederation along with Davidson, MacBean, MacGillivray, MacIntyre of Badenoch, MacLean of Dochgarroch, MacPhail, MacQueen, MacThomas, and the others already mentioned.
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24th December 12, 07:09 PM
#15
Very cool. Thanks for the info.
:-)
The Official [BREN]
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24th December 12, 11:31 PM
#16
This doesn't appear to be a listing of clans at all, nor an attempt to list the clans; seems to me a decree giving any person who has already been found guilty in absentia guilty of a crime and/or of harboring a criminal (be it thief or treason) a timeline to make proper amends (i.e. turn themselves in, pay recompense, have someone in favor swear they aren't rebelling). It also lists the appropriate local authorities in which it was "known" some of these "criminals" actually were located. With a moment's read, it seems to be a way to legally seize the lands of dissenters and those in ill-favor by making them criminals in their own right for the crime of not bringing a criminal to justice.
Death before Dishonor -- Nothing before Coffee
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione
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25th December 12, 09:30 AM
#17
 Originally Posted by Deirachel
This doesn't appear to be a listing of clans at all, nor an attempt to list the clans; seems to me a decree giving any person who has already been found guilty in absentia guilty of a crime and/or of harboring a criminal (be it thief or treason) a timeline to make proper amends (i.e. turn themselves in, pay recompense, have someone in favor swear they aren't rebelling). It also lists the appropriate local authorities in which it was "known" some of these "criminals" actually were located. With a moment's read, it seems to be a way to legally seize the lands of dissenters and those in ill-favor by making them criminals in their own right for the crime of not bringing a criminal to justice.
A lot of very desirable property involved here as well as strategic locations.
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25th December 12, 09:54 AM
#18
Well, looks like my own group--Donnachaidhs--made the outlaw list!
Figures!
Jim Killman
Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
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28th December 12, 09:23 AM
#19
A most interesting document and discussion arising out of it.
Clearly Clan Lindsay was among the good guys (in the eyes of those who drew up the list), hence its omission.
I am curious about the terms Middle March and West March, having previously come across only the book title Middlemarch (one I have not read).
What areas were indicated by these labels?
Regards,
Mike
The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life.
[Proverbs 14:27]
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28th December 12, 10:08 AM
#20
The Marches were regions on both sides of the border in need of powerful local respônsibility during the time of Alexander III and for long after. The West march comprised much of Dumfriesshire, Kircudbrightshire and Wigtonshire, the most important parts from an administration point of view being Eskdale, Annandale and Nithsdale and some extra bits extending from Eskdale.
Last edited by ThistleDown; 28th December 12 at 10:12 AM.
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