A question.

[Mael Coluim]

A question.

Yes I have a brief question if I may.

And yes I have carefully read and reread all the rules of this forum.

I was hoping to view the thread "Brass 17th-18th Century Style Dirk" in this the sub-forum 'Historically Made Kilts and How To Wear Them' and see that it has been censored (if that is the correct description) because of this debate around "Rule 11 violation".

To my great disappointment it has been made unavailable for my viewing.

My question is this: Why is it permissible for items of the same nature to be showcased in the sub forum 'DIY Showroom' and yet not in this ones? Yes I read the contentious debate in the Jacobite thread and it is of my understanding that the thread must have reference to the kilt included within the posting. Yes that is very good as this is all about the kilt, yes?
But there are many treads over in the DIY kategory that do not konnect to the kilt anywhere within it's thread. One is left to inferr
that is to be used in conjunctions with the kilt in some way, yes?

An example thread from that sub forum which must fall into that kategory is this: "Sgian Dubh #3 in progress"

And if I can imagine that to go through that sub forum there would be many more of it's nature, yes?

So in summation, are all threads of this nature to be subjected to removale no matter where they fall, or just into this forum "Historically Made Kilts and How To Wear Them"?

I abhor the censorship of history or anything for that matter. The responsible adult is mature to pass their own judgement, yes?

Enough, I only would like to look at this "Brass 17th-18th Century Style Dirk".

Herr Doktor.

What Herr Doktor is asking for

The fundamental request that resides in Herr Doktor's post, both at the beginning and at the end, appears to me to be for information about 17th-18th century dirks. One assumes he is taking no prurient interest in the weaponry discussed or depicted in the thread: he may be making one himself, or buying or commissioning one, or perhaps he just wants to see how they are worn.

I trust that the moderators focus on that aspect of the OP. If it is possible (in the IT technical sense) for him to have private access to the removed thread, or to be directed to other sources of information apparent to those who do have access to that thread, then perhaps the membership can be spared yet another grassfire on Rule 11.

Peace be upon you,

Ian

Sorry for the short answer to the long questions, but here goes! I am only speaking for myself not my fellow moderators.

I was a member before I was a moderator and I will be a member when I am no longer a moderator. Before, my time as a moderator I understand the moderators felt they had to read every report to make sure it was acceptable. Now with the Rules we depend on you to report Rule violations under our 'Report a Post' Driven Moderation Policy.

The only exception to that is with the 10 post Newbie review. We review the first 10 posts of a newbie and have to approve it before it goes ‘live’ on the forum. After their 10th post, subsequent posts go live on the forum with no review by us.

Now, if in my reading a thread I see “what” I “think” is a Rule violation, I report it (just like you would do) and it gets reviewed by all the moderators in making a determination if a Rule is violated. Yes, I can move a post/thread to the Holding Cell or Cooling Off Corner, but all of us, moderators must decide by vote its ultimate disposition.

And actually this thread came to our attention only by another reported thread that commented on the Rule violation in this thread! I believe this is what Steve was referring to and why you may find inconsistency in what is acted on as a Rule violation because it is we the members who report it thereby creating what is objectionable or the inconsistency.

Now on the request to somehow (IT) allow Herr Doktor see the dirk in question, the OP of that thread when receiving the violation report deleted/moved the photos that the links in the thread were directed to. So, there is now no photos to be seen; only the comments of members about the dirk that cannot be seen now. Sorry.

And with you, Ian.

Ern/Mael Coluim

[BCAC]

Edit: Original contents deleted because all the points where answered in Steve's very clear post about how the forum and the mod system works!!

I'm sorry, I hadn't read Steve's post before posting here.

[Jock Scot]

Thank you Steve for your perspective. It may interest you to know, going on what you have just written, that we are not as far apart on this as some may imagine.