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16th April 13, 01:24 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by Nathan
I have read the Lord Lyon's page and am familiar with the custom of only wearing feathers behind one's badge if they are a clan chief 3, branch chieftain 2 or armiger 1 (rarely done).
This is in reference to eagle feathers - an entirely different matter from blackcock and hackles.
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16th April 13, 01:28 PM
#2
So those cock feathers are as accepted as the forums own dandelion?
Guessing that hackles would be used by the army and pipebands.
Would that be right?
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16th April 13, 01:29 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by David Thorpe
This is in reference to eagle feathers - an entirely different matter from blackcock and hackles.
I'm well aquainted with hackles which are a regimental form often denoting battle honours but I've never seen backcock feathers used in a military context.
So what IS the deal with these blackcock feathers?
Natan Easbaig Mac Dhòmhnaill, FSA Scot
Past High Commissioner, Clan Donald Canada
“Yet still the blood is strong, the heart is Highland, And we, in dreams, behold the Hebrides.” - The Canadian Boat Song.
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16th April 13, 01:33 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by Nathan
I'm well aquainted with hackles which are a regimental form often denoting battle honours but I've never seen backcock feathers used in a military context.
So what IS the deal with these blackcock feathers?
Ask any former member of the King's Own Scottish Borderers regiment; they wore one behind their famous "dog and bonnet" badge for years:
http://www.thesouthernreporter.co.uk...entity-1-91594
T.
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16th April 13, 01:41 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
***, Todd.
A Regimental tradition.
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16th April 13, 01:39 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by Nathan
I'm well aquainted with hackles which are a regimental form often denoting battle honours but I've never seen backcock feathers used in a military context.
So what IS the deal with these blackcock feathers?
My guess would be purely for decoration/ornamentation (as is the case with many aspects of Highland dress and Highland Regimental dress), but used in a regulated/traditional sense by many Scottish Regiments in the past and by the Royal Regiment of Scotland today. In No. 1 and No. 2 pattern dress, all battalions of the Royal Regiment of Scotland wear Blackcock tail feathers attached to the Glengarry in a tradition taken from the Royal Scots and King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Cheers,
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17th April 13, 05:50 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Nathan
I'm well aquainted with hackles which are a regimental form often denoting battle honours but I've never seen backcock feathers used in a military context.
So what IS the deal with these blackcock feathers?
There are Canadian highland regiments that, at one time, had this style of ornamentation as part of their headgear (I've seen pictures of pipers in the 48th Highlanders from the 50's/60's wearing a balmoral with blackcock feathers). At some point seems to have been replaced by feather bonnets.
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17th April 13, 05:57 AM
#8
Apart from the rules which apply within Scotland regarding wearing of eagle feathers, anyone can wear any feathers they want, though in my opinion, people who wear five or even seven feathers in the bonnets usually look rather silly.
Although I am a Scottish Armiger I have never worn a feather in my bonnet, though my cap badge incorporates a small imitation feather in silver.
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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17th April 13, 06:45 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by JohntheBiker
There are Canadian highland regiments that, at one time, had this style of ornamentation as part of their headgear (I've seen pictures of pipers in the 48th Highlanders from the 50's/60's wearing a balmoral with blackcock feathers). At some point seems to have been replaced by feather bonnets.
Correction, said balmoral, meant glengarry.
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17th April 13, 11:11 AM
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So it's not typically something you'd see civilians wearing nowadays outside of a band, dance uniform, correct?
Natan Easbaig Mac Dhòmhnaill, FSA Scot
Past High Commissioner, Clan Donald Canada
“Yet still the blood is strong, the heart is Highland, And we, in dreams, behold the Hebrides.” - The Canadian Boat Song.
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